What kind of doses are you doing EOD?It's sold as Hikma and I buy it through Defy's online store, then it is shipped from Empower pharmacy. Here's a pic of the box:
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What kind of doses are you doing EOD?It's sold as Hikma and I buy it through Defy's online store, then it is shipped from Empower pharmacy. Here's a pic of the box:
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30 mg EOD for 105 mg weekly. I wanted to start around 100 mg and 28 mg EOD would technically be closer (98 mg weekly) but psychologically I prefer the rounder number of 30 mg and being slightly above rather than below 100 mg.What kind of doses are you doing EOD?
@FunkOdyssey30 mg EOD for 105 mg weekly. I wanted to start around 100 mg and 28 mg EOD would technically be closer (98 mg weekly) but psychologically I prefer the rounder number of 30 mg and being slightly above rather than below 100 mg.
I was prescribed 40 mg EOD (140 weekly) but I would rather work up to that slowly.
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What is the carrier oil in the Hikma Test enanthate? Any ideal of the alcohol percentage?
It's sesame oil with 0.5% chlorobutanol, no alcohol, nothing else. I think the lack of benzyl benzoate makes it significantly more viscous and slower to draw up in the syringe but that's a small price to pay for how much better I'm feeling with this product.@FunkOdyssey
What is the carrier oil in the Hikma Test enanthate? Any ideal of the alcohol percentage?
I've often thought to myself that something with a half life between propionate and enanthate would be the jam for me, if something like that existed.
Do you figure that the viscous of the Hikma Test E oil would extend the half life of Test E considering there is no alcohol or benzyl benzoate in it?Sesame.
There is no BOH in the formulation.
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I figure that your test E would expire faster then something like Pfizer test cyp without the BB/BA in it. What is the expire date of your Hikma test E?It's sesame oil with 0.5% chlorobutanol, no alcohol, nothing else. I think the lack of benzyl benzoate makes it significantly more viscous and slower to draw up in the syringe but that's a small price to pay for how much better I'm feeling with this product.
BTW I had the same exaggerated LPR symptoms with compounded propionate as with compounded cypionate and the common denominator there is benzyl benzoate and benzyl alcohol. That's part of what drove my suspicion, because I wasn't getting it with cream, so I felt like it wasn't the testosterone itself.
Do you figure that the viscous of the Hikma Test E oil would extend the half life of Test E considering there is no alcohol or benzyl benzoate in it?
I figure that your test E would expire faster then something like Pfizer test cyp without the BB/BA in it. What is the expire date of your Hikma test E?
I figure that your test E would expire faster then something like Pfizer test cyp without the BB/BA in it. What is the expire date of your Hikma test E?
You may say it isn't worth sweating these details but it seems to me you've decided on using the good stuff for your own protocol. While I recognize I'm probably a rare case, the excipient differences look like they're making a big difference for me.As I stated in a previous thread Hikma TE is the generic version of the brand named Delatestryl.
I have been using big pharma Delatestryl (TE) for over 6 years...
As I have stated numerous times on the forum would not get too caught up on carrier oils let alone whether the formulation uses BOH or BB.
You may say it isn't worth sweating these details but it seems to me you've decided on using the good stuff for your own protocol. While I recognize I'm probably a rare case, the excipient differences look like they're making a big difference for me.
I definitely agree. I seem to tolerate Xyosted fairly well, but it’s expensive and obviously you’re boxed in by the fixed dosing. Only explanation I can think of is the lack of excipients/preservatives.You may say it isn't worth sweating these details but it seems to me you've decided on using the good stuff for your own protocol. While I recognize I'm probably a rare case, the excipient differences look like they're making a big difference for me.
@FunkOdyssey, you may have answered this, but were you injecting this amount or similar amounts prior to getting the Hikma brand? Is everything else similar?30 mg EOD for 105 mg weekly. I wanted to start around 100 mg and 28 mg EOD would technically be closer (98 mg weekly) but psychologically I prefer the rounder number of 30 mg and being slightly above rather than below 100 mg.
I was prescribed 40 mg EOD (140 weekly) but I would rather work up to that slowly.
When I was on cypionate, I spent most of the time on smaller daily doses between 10-15 mg because I could not tolerate larger doses. I did try them several times, including 30 mg and 45 mg doses, and everything was worse on the large doses, even when keeping the weekly total close to the same.@FunkOdyssey, you may have answered this, but were you injecting this amount or similar amounts prior to getting the Hikma brand? Is everything else similar?
I didn't do 30 mg TC EOD long enough to get any labs.What was you total test, free test, SHBG and estrogen when you were injecting 10 to 15mg of test C everyday as well as when you switched it up to 30mg of Test C every 2 days? Do you take HCG? If so, how much?
Did you change your needle/syringe size? This stuff is pretty thick.Do you also notice that it takes forever to draw up in the syringe? I've been using 31g 5/16" needles for subq injections but I might go for something larger gauge. I think one of the functions of benzyl benzoate that we're missing here is to thin out the solution and allow it to flow more easily. I'm happy to wait longer drawing my dose to feel better though.
You got it already? That's awesome. I am actually going to try some larger gauge needles. 31g isn't going to fly with this stuff long-term. It took me several minutes to fill .2 ml yesterday.Did you change your needle/syringe size? This stuff is pretty thick.