Good first Trimix experience, but questions remain . . .

[Melody68]

Hey guys, I'm 69 and on TE for a year. Been on Viagra about 10 years, but it's really not cutting it anymore. Just had my first 25/20/1 Trimix experience, thank you Nelson Vergel for your excellent instruction.

I've always had a good response to small doses of any medication (T included); I wanted to try a really small dose of Trimix so that I don't end up in emergency. I decided to go with .035ml, not expecting much of anything. I managed to find a pack of 10 BD insulin needles, 30 G, .5ml barrel, 5/16" long. I had removed the Trimix vial from the freezer last night and put it in the fridge. I filled 3.5 units (.035ml), capped the needle and returned the vial to the fridge. I tried to massage a bit of size into my member, but it remained at a shriveled low; I'm sure it knew what was coming. I injected without thinking about it. Once in I was going to push the plunger slowly, but at first it wouldn't move, and then suddenly it gave way and quickly emptied the barrel. Was I just barely through the Corpus Cavernosum . . . maybe I should use a longer needle? Anyway, it was in and not painful at all.

About two minutes later, to my surprise, my penis started filling up. At 10 minutes in I had a soft erection, maybe 5.5 out of 10; remarkable for such a small dose; it gave me everything that 50mg of Viagra currently does. Of note were my concerns; the needle length and what dose I try next to eventually hit a 9/10 erection. Any thoughts?

 

[Melody68]

Oh, c'mon guys . . .

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Try 0.10 ml. Your dose was too low. I use 0.12 ml. I use a 27 gauge 1/2 inch but the length depends on your girth.

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[Melody68]

Try 0.10 ml. Your dose was too low. I use 0.12 ml. I use a 27 gauge 1/2 inch but the length depends on your girth.

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Thanks Nelson. I'm surprised you use a 27g needle to inject Trimix: I use a 27g to inject my T, which is much thicker than the Trimix. Isn't the idea to use the smallest gauge possible when injecting the penis? Do you notice a greater pain level with the wider needle?

I don't think I'm a particularly girthy guy, and I took some comfort in accepting the smaller 5/16" long needle when considering Trimix. However when I first tried to inject, I sunk the needle all the way in until it reached the hub, but the plunger wouldn't depress. It's only when I pushed the hub even further into the skin that the plunger suddenly and quickly gave way. Does that mean that I'd be better off with the 1/2"?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

It's only when I pushed the hub even further into the skin that the plunger suddenly and quickly gave way. Does that mean that I'd be better off with the 1/2"?

Yes, try a 28 or 29 gauge 1/2 inch and see. My concern about very thin 30+ gauge needles is the potential for it to break while injecting. Amazon sells them: Amazon.com

 

[Melody68]

Well I did round two with Trimix with a very conservative 5 unit dose; it wasn't much different at all from the 3.5 unit dose that I did a couple of days ago, leaving me with a 7/10 erection that lasted about 40 minutes. That leads me to believe that I'll ultimately need 10-12 units or more to get where I want to be, which is a 9/10 erection. I hope it's possible.

With regard to needle length, the experience was also much the same - I did the left side, slid in the 5/16" 30g needle and got resistance from the plunger. Pushing in further, so that the needle hub dramatically dimpled the skin, the plunger suddenly gave way. I figure I need the longer 1/2" needle. Now I'm quite an average sized guy, maybe just a bit more girthy, but not when flaccid. I'd think that most men would make a better bet by starting with the 1/2" needle. I've read that you don't have to push the 1/2" needle all the way in; you can leave 1/16" inch of the needle shaft (thickness of a dime) still showing near the hub. I've ordered some BD 29g 1/2" .5ml needles. I think they'll work well - the .5ml barrel is much easier to visualize the numbers, and BD's always seem exceptionally sharp. Will try injecting again on Friday, with 7-8 units.

 

[mooseman109]

I use 30 ga 5/16” needles. Nelson is correct they do bend easily. It has happened while sticking through then vial rubber stopper.
I started with .05 mil and got a little chubby. Went to .08 and then .10 ml. I now use .20 and if the vial is a couple months old I go up to .25. Still do not get a hold the towel up erection, but enough for food penetration.

 

[Melody68]

I use 30 ga 5/16” needles. Nelson is correct they do bend easily. It has happened while sticking through then vial rubber stopper.
I started with .05 mil and got a little chubby. Went to .08 and then .10 ml. I now use .20 and if the vial is a couple months old I go up to .25. Still do not get a hold the towel up erection, but enough for food penetration.

Hey Mooseman, thanks for the commentary. Both my first two Trimix's thus far were with the 30g 5/16" needle. I tried bending the needle today on a scrap piece of wood and was shocked how easily it bent. Then I bent back and forth a few times and it snapped off.

Really I haven't read of anybody snapping a needle while injecting, but it still helped convince me to go with the 29g needle. In fact, if you want a 1/2" long needle, then I don't think you have any choice but the bigger diameter; they don't make a 30g 1/2" needle, except for animal vets.

Interesting what you said about your doses. Is it true that the more Trimix that you take, the harder you get, but at the expense of remaining longer and longer in the erection time period? I've heard that some get an erection described with colourful phrases like "stiff enough to hang a towel on it" and "hard enough to pound concrete nails" (ha!). But maybe that's not everybody, no matter how much they take?

 

[excelnelg]

I use 30 ga 5/16” needles. Nelson is correct they do bend easily. It has happened while sticking through then vial rubber stopper.
I started with .05 mil and got a little chubby. Went to .08 and then .10 ml. I now use .20 and if the vial is a couple months old I go up to .25. Still do not get a hold the towel up erection, but enough for food penetration.

I just made the dumbest f'n error in judgment by using my 30 ga when it was a little bent. I figured oh it'll still get in there. Luckily, it didn't break, but not a damn bit of it made it where it was supposed to go.

 

[mooseman109]

Hey Mooseman, thanks for the commentary. Both my first two Trimix's thus far were with the 30g 5/16" needle. I tried bending the needle today on a scrap piece of wood and was shocked how easily it bent. Then I bent back and forth a few times and it snapped off.

Really I haven't read of anybody snapping a needle while injecting, but it still helped convince me to go with the 29g needle. In fact, if you want a 1/2" long needle, then I don't think you have any choice but the bigger diameter; they don't make a 30g 1/2" needle, except for animal vets.

Interesting what you said about your doses. Is it true that the more Trimix that you take, the harder you get, but at the expense of remaining longer and longer in the erection time period? I've heard that some get an erection described with colourful phrases like "stiff enough to hang a towel on it" and "hard enough to pound concrete nails" (ha!). But maybe that's not everybody, no matter how much they take?

For me the increased amount has not translated to harder erection, to my dismay. I was really hoping that it would five me rock hard erections but no such luck. Same with length of time. After ejaculation myndick will loose stiffness, It can be worked back up to enough for penetration. I meet with Defy Dr next week and will ask thoughts about going higher on dosage. I keep a vial of the drug to bring erection down, phenyl…… something.
We are all different in how meds react

 

[mooseman109]

I just made the dumbest f'n error in judgment by using my 30 ga when it was a little bent. I figured oh it'll still get in there. Luckily, it didn't break, but not a damn bit of it made it where it was supposed to go.

Ha, I have never tried injecting a bent needle in my dick, it has crossed my mind though lol. I have injected bent needle in belly. Really dumb in light of what Nelson said

 

[Melody68]

I just made the dumbest f'n error in judgment by using my 30 ga when it was a little bent. I figured oh it'll still get in there. Luckily, it didn't break, but not a damn bit of it made it where it was supposed to go.

Really I'm hating all this talk about broken needles, especially in my dick. You would think that if it did break you could retrieve it with some tweezers (I'll now keep tweezers on hand when I inject), but you'd have to have the presence of mind to keep it together . . . and if it migrates somewhere else then we're truly f*cked.

Really, I'm tempted to experiment with bigger gauge needles, but of course then there's a less than desirable counterargument to doing so. Judging from my T injections, a 25g needle is quite solid as probably is a 27g but who (except Nelson) has the nerve to push those into your manhood? Hmmm . . .

 

[Melody68]

For me the increased amount has not translated to harder erection, to my dismay. I was really hoping that it would five me rock hard erections but no such luck. Same with length of time. After ejaculation myndick will loose stiffness, It can be worked back up to enough for penetration. I meet with Defy Dr next week and will ask thoughts about going higher on dosage. I keep a vial of the drug to bring erection down, phenyl…… something.
We are all different in how meds react

Even though I'm very early in the Trimix game, I'm kind of fearful that it'll give me an "adequate" erection, but also won't knock my socks off. I probably feel like that because I've read about those lucky users who've had super rigid erections, and frankly I'd like to surprise my wife with that. Could a doctor correct that by altering the Trimix formula? Please keep in touch with what the Defy Dr. says . . .

 

[Melody68]

Ok, tried Trimix for the third time, this time with 8 units. The first two times were with the shorter 5/16" 30g needle, and they only worked when I pushed the needle in extra hard, so I thought I'd try a longer 1/2" 29g needle. The 29g is OK, no extra pain, but . . . it didn't work. I put the needle in, and then couldn't depress the plunger, so I figured I went too far. I pulled it out a bit and was able to push the plunger, but it wasn't as easy as the first two times. Can't figure out what went wrong - I injected around 2 o'clock, the first two might have been closer to 3, but it should have worked anyway. Trimix users, has this happened to you? Edit: Ok, about 1/2 hour after injection I did get a weak erection - what does that mean? Can there be a partial reaction?

 

[Melody68]

OK, fourth time, went back to the 5/16" 30g needle with 8 units; injected pretty well.

Disappointingly, the erection was only marginally better than the first time when I took only 3.5 units. It was maybe a max 7.5/10; without massage it quickly goes back to a 6.5. So I know one thing for sure . . . I'm NOT one of those guys that injects 5 units and has to go to emergency after 4 hours. Next time I'll try 10-12 units (the way Nelson said . . .).

In my readings, one person said it helps, during injection and the ensuing 10 minutes, to restrict blood flow out of the penis by putting on a band of some sort at the base. Never heard of it up till then, anyone know of this?

 

[mooseman109]

I have never used a ring so maybe is all I can say to that. I just kept upping my dose little each time until I got satisfactory results. Like I said earlier, I do not get rock hard erections that I was hoping for, nut they are good enough for penetration in much positions and I do not loose erection between positions

 

[Melody68]

I have never used a ring so maybe is all I can say to that. I just kept upping my dose little each time until I got satisfactory results. Like I said earlier, I do not get rock hard erections that I was hoping for, nut they are good enough for penetration in much positions and I do not loose erection between positions

Hey Mooseman, your post above and from last Thursday have been on my mind since I read them; it's early still, but thus far I'm thinking that's what will happen to me. It's been about the same as my failing Viagra, and you hit the nail on the head when you described losing erections between positions; that's why I wanted to try the Trimix. Well, I don't think I have to be concerned about 5 hour stiff erections, so I'll try the 12 units soon.