Nandrolone (Deca) Base TRT Trial

[William Greystoke]

I definitely wouldn’t go up any further with either test or nandrolone. Ur weekly androgen load is clearly already pretty high lol

To get morning wood back I would probably either lower ur nandrolone dose a bit, or add a small dose of a dht derivative, like proviron, for example. Like even just start with 5mg/ day of proviron. With anything u take, u always want to take the lowest effective dose, to achieve ur goals. When u’ve been in the HRT game as long as I have, u realize that one of the most important things, when it comes to success, is being patient, starting with the lowest effective dose, titrating up slowly, if needed, and not overshooting the sweetspot with things

With u being on a test base, u want to take the lowest effective dose of nandrolone, to achieve ur goals. Test and nandrolone aren’t usually the best when used together. Due to test being a high metabolite converter. Aka it converts into estrogen and dht at pretty high rates, compared to other AAS. And estrogen is the main stimulator of prolactin, in the male body, so it also tends to raise prolactin levels to a pretty good degree.

Then u have nandrolone, that sensitizes estrogen and prolactin receptors, making whatever estrogen and prolactin u have in ur system more potent. Nandrolone also supposedly increases the rate at which testosterone converts into estrogen. And then there’s also a progesterone component, since nandrolone is a progestin. So overall u just have to be careful when using test and nandorlone together. Their individual properties make them a little risky to use together.

So when using a test base, u always want to use the lowest effective dose of nandrolone, to reach ur goals, and when using a nandrolone base, u always want to use the lowest effective dose of test, again to achieve ur goals

Thank you , I will take this in consideration for sure, I am taking test c weekly Mond, Wdnesday and Friday, on Tuesday and Saturday I inject nandrolone, I will lower nandrolone from 150 to 120mg per week, and stay on that for next 2 months to see how I would feel, I tried Proviron fo a period of 8 weeks once and to be honest, didn’t felt anything, 1 week was 10 mg, next 20, and for 10 mg up until I reach 50 mg and stayes there total 8 weeks, but personally didnt felt some difference.
I have a very stressful work, so it is quite usual to sleep only 4,5 hrs per night, sometimes 6 days in a row but that job also demands to be in shape so despite lack of sleep time I would not skip trainings more than 2 days in a row since I made decision to commit myself as much as I can , stress is part of job description and despite all I-like my job, so I also thought that is reason why I didn't felt symptom resolution of low t with smaller starting dosages, and kept titrating up 20 mg every 2 months until I came to 250 mg test cyp and 150 mg nandrolone per week where I felt overall improvement without any side effects so far.I also understand concept of less is better in symptom resolution and that it takes time.I will keep on learning here as much as I can from you guys,Salute

 

[lebroseixoife]

I am curious. If you were to switch to this protocol, how would you lower your test dose from 170mg to 40mg? Gradually, or skip a week or two of shots?

 

[Gman86]

I am curious. If you were to switch to this protocol, how would you lower your test dose from 170mg to 40mg? Gradually, or skip a week or two of shots?

After 11 years on HRT, I don’t bother worrying about that stuff anymore. Anytime I change protocols, I just start the new protocol asap, and obv drop the previous protocol at the same time. So in ur example, I would simply lower my dose to 40mg right away, and not worry about making sure levels stay exactly where u want them during the transition period. This has seemed to workout fine for me. Been doing it this way for years without any issues

I know for an AAS to reach steady state, or for an AAS to get out of ur system, it takes roughly 5 half lives, but what people might not realize is that the majority of ur dosage gets into ur system during the first few half lives, and likewise the majority of what u have in ur system is out of it in a few half lives. Then the rest trickles in or out over the last 2-3 half lives. So the part of the transition period where u’ll notice changes is actually shorter than one might think. So because of this, I stopped bothering trying to do things perfectly and adjust dosages to try and keep levels as stable as possible during protocol changes. And like I said, I haven’t noticed any issues that have caused me to stop doing protocol changes this way