Nandrolone (Deca) Base TRT Trial

[Mr.63]

I’m in my 6th month. Been on 150mg NPP + 1000iu hCG for the most part but decided to try 200mg a few weeks ago. I don’t really feel any difference but it might be early. Gonna give it a few more weeks and if it continues I’ll go back down.

I also dropped Test completely because it gave me acne with no real benefit. I honestly don’t see myself using Test ever again.

BP is an issue but I got it under control with meds. Sleep is good. Skin is clear. Fitness and recovery are great. Mental state all good. Libido and erectile function are great but sensitivity is still lacking. I tried Mast, EQ, Primo and Anavar trying to solve that missing piece but had to drop each one almost immediately due to acne. However, I feel pretty damn good overall.

Thx for the update!
Did you ever try deca and test, but without the hcg? How did that feel

 

[DixieWrecked]

I’m in my 6th month. Been on 150mg NPP + 1000iu hCG for the most part but decided to try 200mg a few weeks ago. I don’t really feel any difference but it might be early. Gonna give it a few more weeks and if it continues I’ll go back down.

I also dropped Test completely because it gave me acne with no real benefit. I honestly don’t see myself using Test ever again.

BP is an issue but I got it under control with meds. Sleep is good. Skin is clear. Fitness and recovery are great. Mental state all good. Libido and erectile function are great but sensitivity is still lacking. I tried Mast, EQ, Primo and Anavar trying to solve that missing piece but had to drop each one almost immediately due to acne. However, I feel pretty damn good overall.

One good thing about nandrolone is it seems to be much more forgiving when finding a dosage window because it so much less estrogenic and androgenic. As long as you get enough of it, you'll be good. it's hard to go too high. Just gotta keep an eye on the heart rate, BP, and sleep.

 

[baconlatte]

Thx for the update!
Did you ever try deca and test, but without the hcg? How did that feel

I don't really do well on AAS without hCG. I was traveling for 2 weeks and skipped my hCG dose (didn't want to deal with refrigeration) and felt a noticeable decline in libido and general mood. On TRT I felt pretty crappy without hCG as well.

One good thing about nandrolone is it seems to be much more forgiving when finding a dosage window because it so much less estrogenic and androgenic. As long as you get enough of it, you'll be good. it's hard to go too high. Just gotta keep an eye on the heart rate, BP, and sleep.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Seagal]

I'm interested in anecdotal experience of someone who has had problems with mental disorders (depression etc) and used your nandrolone base protocol or the 2:1 T:N approach for TRT.

Good or bad experience, any feedback is appreciated.

 

[DixieWrecked]

I'm interested in anecdotal experience of someone who has had problems with mental disorders (depression etc) and used your nandrolone base protocol or the 2:1 T:N approach for TRT.

Good or bad experience, any feedback is appreciated.

I did 200 test and 100 deca and absolutely sent me into a depression and anxiety spiral.

Nandrolone solo, between 200-900 wasn't bad but I missed that lack of assertiveness. Definitely chill bordering on apathy. It definitely is a change in behavior. I'm contemplating how to explain it because it's difficult to put into words. Just consider that it's a complete replacement of testosterone. I kind of behaved like a sweet little granny, but I was jacked.

 

[Fernando Almaguer]

I don't really do well on AAS without hCG. I was traveling for 2 weeks and skipped my hCG dose (didn't want to deal with refrigeration) and felt a noticeable decline in libido and general mood. On TRT I felt pretty crappy without hCG as well.



I couldn't have said it better myself.

How much HCG do you take and how often.. Do you ever get e2 or other sides?

 

[Seagal]

I did 200 test and 100 deca and absolutely sent me into a depression and anxiety spiral.

Was there anything to alleviate the problem? AI, DHT inhibitor, pregnenolone, proviron, more T etc
Short esters would be smart to quickly transition...

 

[baconlatte]

How much HCG do you take and how often.. Do you ever get e2 or other sides?

500iu every Mon and Thurs.

Not at all. I'm a low aromatizer. My e2 is 11.

The only annoying side I'm dealing with at the moment is mild acne, but I don't know if it's from increasing my NPP to 200mg or the EQ that I tried a few weeks ago. In either case, I dropped the EQ and I'm going back down to 150mg. Those first few months when I first started NPP with hCG, my skin was the clearest it's ever been in my life.

 

[Gman86]

I’m in my 6th month. Been on 150mg NPP + 1000iu hCG for the most part but decided to try 200mg a few weeks ago. I don’t really feel any difference but it might be early. Gonna give it a few more weeks and if it continues I’ll go back down.

I also dropped Test completely because it gave me acne with no real benefit. I honestly don’t see myself using Test ever again.

BP is an issue but I got it under control with meds. Sleep is good. Skin is clear. Fitness and recovery are great. Mental state all good. Libido and erectile function are great but sensitivity is still lacking. I tried Mast, EQ, Primo and Anavar trying to solve that missing piece but had to drop each one almost immediately due to acne. However, I feel pretty damn good overall.

How was sensitivity on a test base? Was it better? Or was sensitivity lacking the same way on a test base?

 

[Gman86]

I don't really do well on AAS without hCG. I was traveling for 2 weeks and skipped my hCG dose (didn't want to deal with refrigeration) and felt a noticeable decline in libido and general mood. On TRT I felt pretty crappy without hCG as well.



I couldn't have said it better myself.

What brand of HCG are u using?

 

[baconlatte]

How was sensitivity on a test base? Was it better? Or was sensitivity lacking the same way on a test base?

Sensitivity is a little better on NPP than Test, but not by much. Libido is 100x better though. I can have sex no problem, but it still doesn't feel as pleasurable as it did before AAS. It's quite a Catch-22 when I think about it.

What brand of HCG are u using?

Pregnyl. It's the only one I trust.

 

[Gman86]

Sensitivity is a little better on NPP than Test, but not by much. Libido is 100x better though. I can have sex no problem, but it still doesn't feel as pleasurable as it did before AAS. It's quite a Catch-22 when I think about it.


Pregnyl. It's the only one I trust.

Ya pretty much the same boat. Sensitivity was definitely better before going on HRT

And ya I only use pregnyl as well

 

[baconlatte]

Sarcastically, I think the only benefit with Test vs Nand is that I was 10-15% stronger on Test. NPP is better in every other way. If I could solve that 1 missing piece everything would be perfect. Now my cabinet looks like a pharmacy of Test and DHT derivatives.

I've tried baby doses of Anavar, Proviron, Mast, Primo, and EQ. Didn't feel anything from the orals and the injectables caused me to breakout (within 2-3 days) with no real sexual benefit. Each time it would take 3-6 weeks for the acne to clear. I've become so sensitive to this shit that I feel like I can tell what and when I injected by the quality of my skin lol.

I just received Dbol, Tbol and Tren which I plan on trying in the near future.

This is me as of last week on 150mg NPP + 1,000iu hCG. 40yo 172lbs haven't had bf% tested in a while.

 

[Gman86]

Sarcastically, I think the only benefit with Test vs Nand is that I was 10-15% stronger on Test. NPP is better in every other way. If I could solve that 1 missing piece everything would be perfect. Now my cabinet looks like a pharmacy of Test and DHT derivatives.

I've tried baby doses of Anavar, Proviron, Mast, Primo, and EQ. Didn't feel anything from the orals and the injectables caused me to breakout (within 2-3 days) with no real sexual benefit. Each time it would take 3-6 weeks for the acne to clear. I've become so sensitive to this shit that I feel like I can tell what and when I injected by the quality of my skin lol.

I just received Dbol, Tbol and Tren which I plan on trying in the near future.

This is me as of last week on 150mg NPP + 1,000iu hCG. 40yo 172lbs haven't had bf% tested in a while.

Dude, literal perfect physique, imo. Jealous! Lol

So u didn’t see any benefit with the 200 npp and backed it down to 150 again?

And ya I also noticed a slight decrease in strength switching from the test base to the nandrolone base. Definitely an annoying sacrifice. The difference isn’t huge or anything, but it’s noticeable enough to be annoying lol

What do u plan on doing with the dbol? Like dosage and frequency, etc. I recently tried using 10mg of dbol sublingually pre workout, and don’t think I noticed anything. So I ended up stopping it. Was hoping to see a bit of strength gain from it, and/ or that euphoric feeling people report on it. Don’t experience either

 

[baconlatte]

Dude, literal perfect physique, imo. Jealous! Lol

So u didn’t see any benefit with the 200 npp and backed it down to 150 again?

And ya I also noticed a slight decrease in strength switching from the test base to the nandrolone base. Definitely an annoying sacrifice. The difference isn’t huge or anything, but it’s noticeable enough to be annoying lol

What do u plan on doing with the dbol? Like dosage and frequency, etc. I recently tried using 10mg of dbol sublingually pre workout, and don’t think I noticed anything. So I ended up stopping it. Was hoping to see a bit of strength gain from it, and/ or that euphoric feeling people report on it. Don’t experience either

Thank you! I'm flattered!

No benefit at all. Maybe I was a slightly more pumped, but pimples started popping up in strange places so I'm back down to 150 now.

I started taking 5mg of Dbol a few days ago. So far I don't feel anything at all. I might give it another week at 5mg or bump it to 10mg. I haven't decided yet. I'll try the same with Tren and Tbol, with the goal being the lowest dose possible.

 

[Gman86]

Thank you! I'm flattered!

No benefit at all. Maybe I was a slightly more pumped, but pimples started popping up in strange places so I'm back down to 150 now.

I started taking 5mg of Dbol a few days ago. So far I don't feel anything at all. I might give it another week at 5mg or bump it to 10mg. I haven't decided yet. I'll try the same with Tren and Tbol, with the goal being the lowest dose possible.

Ya maybe try 10mg/ day of dbol before u start implementing the other compounds. I’m curious if u end up noticing anything. Like I said, I didn’t notice anything from taking 10mg sublingually preworkout

 

[bmosby]

Hey guys, created account because of this thread. Was just wanting to see how you guys were doing another month later? This is looking like a very likely option for myself. Thanks

 

[Mr.63]

Ive been doing deca solo for about 3 weeks now and it has been awfull.
Depressed, irritable, bad mood, anxious the little libido i had on trt is now completely gone.

Only positive is the gym. I grow like a weed. But that is not my main priority. I want my libido back, not mass gainz.

Im afraid im fucked for life. I really hoped this would the holy grail protocol and that this would be everything i hoped trt would be but its not. I feel so bad i dont even feel like continueing this.

 

[DixieWrecked]

Ive been doing deca solo for about 3 weeks now and it has been awfull.
Depressed, irritable, bad mood, anxious the little libido i had on trt is now completely gone.

Only positive is the gym. I grow like a weed. But that is not my main priority. I want my libido back, not mass gainz.

Im afraid im fucked for life. I really hoped this would the holy grail protocol and that this would be everything i hoped trt would be but its not. I feel so bad i dont even feel like continueing this.

Well you do have to give it alot longer if you want to give it a fair shot. Like months longer. That transition is tough as hell though, especially not knowing if the protocol will suit you after it's all settled.

 

[Gman86]

Ive been doing deca solo for about 3 weeks now and it has been awfull.
Depressed, irritable, bad mood, anxious the little libido i had on trt is now completely gone.

Only positive is the gym. I grow like a weed. But that is not my main priority. I want my libido back, not mass gainz.

Im afraid im fucked for life. I really hoped this would the holy grail protocol and that this would be everything i hoped trt would be but it’s not. I feel so bad i dont even feel like continueing this.

Damn, it’s literally the worst when u feel like this on a protocol. Not only does it suck suffering, but it sucks losing that feeling of trying something out and being excited for the possibility of it making u feel how u hoped HRT would make u feel. So it’s definitely a sucky situation all around. Been through it many times.

Nobody would fault u for tapping out right now. But if I were u, I would definitely try adding a low dose of test first, before tapping out completely. Preferably test prop if u have access to it