Nandrolone (Deca) Base TRT Trial

[bmosby]

I'm sorry you aren't feeling your best. I'm still researching but it sounds promising. So far i am leaning toward nandrolone at 150-160mg week and test prop(depending on source but shouldn't be an issue) at 20mg week. Like I said I'm still researching options but this thread really is hopeful to help a lot of guys. Good luck on the trt journey fellas.

 

[Mr.63]

Damn, it’s literally the worst when u feel like this on a protocol. Not only does it suck suffering, but it sucks losing that feeling of trying something out and being excited for the possibility of it making u feel how u hoped HRT would make u feel. So it’s definitely a sucky situation all around. Been through it many times.

Nobody would fault u for tapping out right now. But if I were u, I would definitely try adding a low dose of test first, before tapping out completely. Preferably test prop if u have access to it

I will try to hang on a little bit more.
Last sunday i added 15mg of test. Since i pin 2x per week its going to be 30mg per week total.
Also lowered the nandrolone to 75mg 2x per week as my bp was raising to. And i wouldnt be comfortable in my head doing 200mg life long.
Also started doing daily cardio after training in hopes to reduce bp.

This night i had strong wood almost the whole night and a pretty sexual dream to. But the moment i wake up, i dont feel horny at all.
Maybe im on the right pad.. who knows. Time will tell.

 

[Gman86]

I'm sorry you aren't feeling your best. I'm still researching but it sounds promising. So far i am leaning toward nandrolone at 150-160mg week and test prop(depending on source but shouldn't be an issue) at 20mg week. Like I said I'm still researching options but this thread really is hopeful to help a lot of guys. Good luck on the trt journey fellas.

That sounds like a perfect starting protocol, as far as a nandrolone based protocol goes. Love that u would start with such a low dose of test, and love that u would use prop. So much easier and faster to dial in, if u have access to it. And 150-160mg of nandrolone sounds like a great dosage, that can obv be run indefinitely

 

[Gman86]

I will try to hang on a little bit more.
Last sunday i added 15mg of test. Since i pin 2x per week its going to be 30mg per week total.
Also lowered the nandrolone to 75mg 2x per week as my bp was raising to. And i wouldnt be comfortable in my head doing 200mg life long.
Also started doing daily cardio after training in hopes to reduce bp.

This night i had strong wood almost the whole night and a pretty sexual dream to. But the moment i wake up, i dont feel horny at all.
Maybe im on the right pad.. who knows. Time will tell.

Really really hoping these are at least signs that things are improving, now that u have a little bit of test in the mix

 

[baconlatte]

Ive been doing deca solo for about 3 weeks now and it has been awfull.
Depressed, irritable, bad mood, anxious the little libido i had on trt is now completely gone.

Only positive is the gym. I grow like a weed. But that is not my main priority. I want my libido back, not mass gainz.

Im afraid im fucked for life. I really hoped this would the holy grail protocol and that this would be everything i hoped trt would be but its not. I feel so bad i dont even feel like continueing this.

Hold up. Did you just switch from Test to Deca or you just started Deca from zero?

 

[baconlatte]

Sarcastically, I think the only benefit with Test vs Nand is that I was 10-15% stronger on Test. NPP is better in every other way. If I could solve that 1 missing piece everything would be perfect. Now my cabinet looks like a pharmacy of Test and DHT derivatives.

I've tried baby doses of Anavar, Proviron, Mast, Primo, and EQ. Didn't feel anything from the orals and the injectables caused me to breakout (within 2-3 days) with no real sexual benefit. Each time it would take 3-6 weeks for the acne to clear. I've become so sensitive to this shit that I feel like I can tell what and when I injected by the quality of my skin lol.

I just received Dbol, Tbol and Tren which I plan on trying in the near future.

This is me as of last week on 150mg NPP + 1,000iu hCG. 40yo 172lbs haven't had bf% tested in a while.

Update since my last post:

-I tried Dbol for 2 weeks. First week at 5mg daily, second week at 10mg daily. I literally didn't feel a damn thing. My body typically responds quickly so I dropped Dbol.

-After a short break I tried 10mg Tbol. It's only been 3 weeks now. Endurance in the gym is up a little; I feel like my well is deeper when I'm trying to bust out those last reps. But the biggest benefit has been EQ/sensitivity/semen volume. I don't know the biological mechanism behind it but, for now, I'm firing on all cylinders like before AAS. It almost brings a tear to my eye being able to experience my old orgasms again lmao. I may drop the dose to 5mg to see if it's still effective.

Again...it's only been 3 weeks. I'm hoping this isn't another honeymoon like I've had with hCG, Proviron and Mast. Now the big questions are 1) what does my bloodwork look like? 2) how much Tbol is safe to take? and 3) how long is Tbol safe to take for?

-Now that I've spent an extended amount of time on NPP, I've noticed I don't have nearly the same "pump" that I had on Test, even though my "Test serum" levels are significantly higher now. On Test, I would wake up pumped as if I just finished a workout. On NPP, I only get the gym pump, and even then, it fades away pretty quickly. I have no complaints about the way I look, but I do look much flatter now than I did on Test. Just an observation.

-I noticed I'm REALLY sensitive with regard to acne. I don't think I'm able to go above 120 - 150mg without break outs that left some permanent marks.

I stopped hCG for a few weeks trying to get my acne under control. I was surprised to learn the issue was high T, not high e2. After I noticed no change, I added back hCG and dropped NPP to 120mg. My skin has been clearing up nicely since dropping to 120mg.

tl;dr: I'm on 120mg NPP, 1,000iu hCG, 10mg Tbol. Feeling 10/10.

 

[Mr.63]

Hold up. Did you just switch from Test to Deca or you just started Deca from zero?

Switched from test to deca.
Did my last pin of test 9 december and started deca on 15december

 

[baconlatte]

Switched from test to deca.
Did my last pin of test 9 december and started deca on 15december

I had a feeling this might’ve been the case. You may still have exogenous Test floating around in your system interacting with the Deca.

Not sure if your best option is to 1) power through for another month or so and see how it goes or 2) PCT, come off everything for a few months, and try Deca fresh.

 

[Fernando Almaguer]

Ive tried test with 100 mg deca. really not all that great, just ok. Watery, bloated, strong but lil more acne and higher hct, just better with test only and small amounts of hcg for me