DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost

[FangFang]

Thanks for confirming. You're doing just once/day application? Mostly to penis shaft? Are you still seeing the same benefits with regards to mood/mindset, etc...?

I've just ordered the 20% DHT gel. Gonna try to use it in addition to non-scrotal Testosterone cream + Preg/DHEA transdermal as well.

Almost always once daily. I'll add little bit to nipples to ward off gyno. I stopped taint application after badass mentioned it lowered semen volume.

 

[Andy2019]

Been following this threat for a while and very intrigued. Thanks to those who have self experimented and shared your experiences. have some questions:

1) Has anyone taken before and after bloodwork on a same protocol just after adding DHT gel to compare total and free T, SHBG, and e2?

2) Though completely different product and mechanism; could the same desired results (increased DHT levels and libido, e2 management, mental benefits) be achieved by adding a low does of a legal DHT derivative, such as oxandrolone, which most could get easily from their Dr.?

3) Any understanding of how this type of product affects lipids?

Thanks

 

[Seagal]

2) Though completely different product and mechanism; could the same desired results (increased DHT levels and libido, e2 management, mental benefits) be achieved by adding a low does of a legal DHT derivative, such as oxandrolone, which most could get easily from their Dr.?

I am currently testing exactly this. Reduced my TU by 50% and added Oxandrolone 5mg mornings. Don't use Proviron because it felt for me as too much fluctuation.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Though completely different product and mechanism; could the same desired results (increased DHT levels and libido, e2 management, mental benefits) be achieved by adding a low does of a legal DHT derivative, such as oxandrolone

Unlikely I would think, as oxandrolone is not very androgenic at all relative to DHT. Some lower androgenicity DHT derivatives may actually worsen symptoms by competing with the more potent DHT at androgen receptors.

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

Been following this threat for a while and very intrigued. Thanks to those who have self experimented and shared your experiences. have some questions:

1) Has anyone taken before and after bloodwork on a same protocol just after adding DHT gel to compare total and free T, SHBG, and e2?

2) Though completely different product and mechanism; could the same desired results (increased DHT levels and libido, e2 management, mental benefits) be achieved by adding a low does of a legal DHT derivative, such as oxandrolone, which most could get easily from their Dr.?

3) Any understanding of how this type of product affects lipids?

Thanks

In addition, Oxandrolone is one of the few anabolics to be considered Female-friendly, so it is unlikely to have the effect you're looking for, although it seems like there are exceptions to everything so it is worth a try, but if it helps you, I would not think it is because it is related to DHT.

 

[Seagal]

@FunkOdyssey @Guided_by_Voices @Andy2019
Should have added more context to my post. I don't look for "increased DHT levels and libido, e2 management" but for "mental benefits" possibly related to daily free T fluctuations.

 

[nippy]

Any One from the UK who's got a good supplier oh DHT ?

 

[Andy2019]

Unlikely I would think, as oxandrolone is not very androgenic at all relative to DHT. Some lower androgenicity DHT derivatives may actually worsen symptoms by competing with the more potent DHT at androgen receptors.

Interesting, did not know that, thank you

 

[Andy2019]

@FunkOdyssey @Guided_by_Voices @Andy2019
Should have added more context to my post. I don't look for "increased DHT levels and libido, e2 management" but for "mental benefits" possibly related to daily free T fluctuations.

Good luck. I'm starting the same thing 5.75mg/d that's why i asked.. hoping to lower my shbg mainly and want to see if any other perceived benefits.

 

[Forty2]

Does anyone know if DHT applied over the pecs or abs can spot reduce fat in that area?

 

[Jerajera]

Does anyone know if DHT applied over the pecs or abs can spot reduce fat in that area?

I think transdermal DHT is one of the very few things that might actually work for that. There are studies (@Nelson Vergel posted them a while ago) about DHT successfully treating (or significantly reducing) gynecomastia.

Gyno isn't technically fat, but from past personal experiences I can tell you I drop fat very quickly when adding DHT derivatives or even on Test cream applied to the scrotum; it's not just that I'm dropping water weight.

Never tried DHT gel, but hopefully soon if I can get my hands on some. I'll update this thread with my results.

 

[Seagal]

I am currently testing exactly this. Reduced my TU by 50% and added Oxandrolone 5mg mornings. Don't use Proviron because it felt for me as too much fluctuation.

I tested this for 3 weeks. I didn't notice any CNS or mental effects. What I noticed to my surprise is a significant strength increase and cardio gave me 'sore' muscles. When I used androgel for TRT and later TU at 250mg per week I didn't notice any performance increase in the gym. That's just my experience.

Now going to test the combination of Oxandrolone and Proviron (5mg and 12mg).

 

[Andy2019]

I tested this for 3 weeks. I didn't notice any CNS or mental effects. What I noticed to my surprise is a significant strength increase and cardio gave me 'sore' muscles. When I used androgel for TRT and later TU at 250mg per week I didn't notice any performance increase in the gym. That's just my experience.

Now going to test the combination of Oxandrolone and Proviron (5mg and 12mg).

I'm about 2 weeks into my trial. Feels like it has done exactly as intended with SHBG and free T. Has given me some additional mental energy but mild. I've been back on caffeine for a bit and have been able to reduce my intake to a single cup of green tea or two per day no coffee.

Sore muscles and joints might be due to some type of competitive binding that the oxandrolone has with e2 on receptors. I already take HCG and did not modify but added 5mg daily of DHEA to combat this and has worked great.

Only potential negative side effect is that my voice seems to have changed and is raspier after just a few weeks and on only 5mg per day which is concerning. Too early to tell if this protocol is viable long term for me.

 

[Gman86]

I tested this for 3 weeks. I didn't notice any CNS or mental effects. What I noticed to my surprise is a significant strength increase and cardio gave me 'sore' muscles. When I used androgel for TRT and later TU at 250mg per week I didn't notice any performance increase in the gym. That's just my experience.

Now going to test the combination of Oxandrolone and Proviron (5mg and 12mg).

So u noticed a pretty decent strength increase from taking just 5mg of oxandrolone once a day in the morning? Did u ever take it preworkout?

 

[Seagal]

So u noticed a pretty decent strength increase from taking just 5mg of oxandrolone once a day in the morning? Did u ever take it preworkout?

Yes, it's surprising, however, if you do the math on assumed anabolic ratio vs testosterone, then it seems possible. No ester, bioavailability 97%, thus 34mg per week.
Tried only proviron pre workout which gives more 'bite' through CNS stimulation.
Guess oxandrolone could be for me what nandrolone is for others. Strength increased and muscles feel pumped up.