It came from the little animal research that is out there and extrapolated to human doses. So it came out to about 6-10mg per week. In fact, NO ONE knows what dose is good for humans. I have gotten good results with 500-1000mg of BPC 157 and 2g of TB500 two times a week. I still agree that even this is expensive for most. I get mine for about $5 a vial so it is easy for me to experiment with larger doses. I have totally healed 3rd degree ligament tears using 500mcg/d for 2 weeks. Will that work on everyone? Who knows but it will work if you use enough. We just don't have any scientific data on humans. The single study on BPC 157 I believe used 4mg. Could the same thing be accomplished with less? Who knows, that was not documented. Sometimes cures are so expensive that the average Joe can't afford them.
“But quite honestly if I was to have to give up the weight room which I have spent over 50 years of my life in, I am not so sure there how I would handle that mentally.”
HCT comes in around 50, Hemoglobin around 16. I donate ever 2 months
Thanks. That’s about what mine is. I wait 3 months and it’s usually 52ish with hemoglobin 16 or 17. The problem is I keep crashing my ferritin. I was down just over single digits. I honestly don’t really feel any ill effects, but my doctor wants me to hold back on donating. The problem is I will have to lower my dose and it seems I am a high responder because even a dose as low as 70 mg of testosterone with nothing else will still have me creeping back into the low 50s, in about five months. And even then my ferritin was only a little bit higher. So, frankly, I’d rather feel and look good with the added nandrolone, and just donate more.
I prefer free weights also, but do very little now due to having elbow surgery 11 years ago, no left with no cartilage in elbow and tendon related issues. Also rotator cuff issues and a partially torn bicep tendon. I’ve purchased several weight machines to limit the stress on areas that I have issues. Examples, replaced dumbell side laterals with a side lateral machine to take stress off my elbows. Replaced overhead dumbbell presses with Hammer strength machine press and I could no longer get dumbbells into overhead position because of my elbow. Replaced dumbell flys with old school type pec deck to take elbow and rotator cuff out of the equation. Hammer strength chest press replaced barbell and dumbell presses.
This anecdote perfectly encapsulates why I would never consider nandrolone for joint pain. You aren't healing anything, you're just masking it, and doing even more damage because now you don't feel the pain you should be feeling.
I don't think this logic is nearly as clearly-cut as you imply it is. First, from what I remember from talks by pain experts, the body does not always send accurate pain signals. "Pain" from an amputated limb is one example, so masking invalid pain would be a good thing, not a bad thing if that is happening. Second, if people were continuing to do damage due to pain masking, we would expect to see rampant acceleration of joint damage (especially tendon ruptures) in people using N who previously had joint pain. While I don't know of a way to objectively track that, it certainly isn't reported on forums like this and just the opposite seems to be true. Third, there are a lot of positives to enabling more activity (blood flow, glycogen uptake, myokines, cardio conditioning etc.) that may partially or fully offset any masking. And finally, Nandrolone is apparently a promoter of tissue/collagen deposition, which would be a legitimate improvement, not masking.
From what I've seen, when people stop nandrolone, their joint pain returns and it is either as bad as it was before they took nandrolone (best case scenario) or it is worse like the JimGainz example. So I'm going to call that masking the problem, because they certainly didn't heal it. If nandrolone was actually healing joints, you wouldn't need to keep taking it to experience relief from pain.
There are a lot of other variables here. Tissue is constantly being turned over so what could be considered short-term "healing" could still be consistent with re-onset of pain when the Nandrolone is stopped. If someone has been on Nandrolone for years for pain management and maintained a fairly youthful level of activity without catastrophic joint damage, I would say that qualifies as an improved, although not necessarily ideal "state of health". And again, if the pain was invalid in the first place, you wouldn't necessarily need healing.
what do you mean by particle numbers, its not a term I have heard
Smaller particles of LDL (bad) cholesterol carry greater heart disease risk than larger ones.
