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Me too, however I have no idea where to get it (raw dht). Maybe @ziegen knows more, a fellow European:)
I have a idea but don't want to get in trouble
I know a couple of places where you can get raw powders, however I don't know how allowed source talk is on these forums. I mean we did discuss where to get DHT gels extensively and there were no problems, but I don't want to risk it. In any case I made an order from one of the places, it arrived no problem, I made a home-brew cream, which works according to blood tests as noted here:

 
I know a couple of places where you can get raw powders, however I don't know how allowed source talk is on these forums. I mean we did discuss where to get DHT gels extensively and there were no problems, but I don't want to risk it. In any case I made an order from one of the places, it arrived no problem, I made a home-brew cream, which works according to blood tests as noted here:

Does anybody knows the rules for PM messages?
 
What is the evidence for this statement? The majority of papers I can find on the relationship between DHT and collagen indicate DHT stimulates collagen production through the androgen receptor, similar to other androgens.



This one too - who are these "alot of guys" and where do they discuss this?

There are many prominent YouTubers you can look at who've been on cream for years, providing reassurance that elevated DHT does no such thing with skin aging (Steven Devos, Jordan Grant, Keith Nichols, Dave Lee, Amir Karkouti to name a few).
I’m actually one that I think may fit both categories he mentioned that you quoted. Strictly anecdotal but I’ve been tinkering and dialing in my hormones for 15 years now. I have always preferred DHT based steroids for more than other types and usually keep my DHT levels elevated throughout the year. And I have personally witnessed both of what you quoted. I’m healthy as a mule deer otherwise. Well, physically at least lol
 
I’m actually one that I think may fit both categories he mentioned that you quoted. Strictly anecdotal but I’ve been tinkering and dialing in my hormones for 15 years now. I have always preferred DHT based steroids for more than other types and usually keep my DHT levels elevated throughout the year. And I have personally witnessed both of what you quoted. I’m healthy as a mule deer otherwise. Well, physically at least lol
Over a 15 year period, your skin would naturally be expected to look much older. I don't know how you would be able to accurately attribute skin aging to high DHT, unless you had a twin who kept his DHT low. Even then, maybe you had more sun exposure than your twin, drank more alcohol, etc.
 
If someone has a legit source of raw stanolone (DHT) that you wish to share, put it in a PM to interested parties. I would however make certain that you truly know the other person fairly well.

Do not post it on the forum.
 
not directly sources but the best source review sites are
I have yet to see DHT in any form here, but if you dig deep enough it probably exists.

question for those who ordered alpha gels. is there any mention of DHT on the bottle? just wondering what chance this has getting through customs. ordering outside usa is a different story
 
I believe PM's are a private matter between members. Unless you are plotting to destroy the world, I would say you are fine to speak as you wish. I do. ;)
We have been cautioned that PM's should not be considered private. My interpretation of this is that PMs are probably shielded from the general public and most forum members, but administrators may review them at their discretion.
 
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We have been cautioned that PM's should not be considered private. My interpretation of this is that PMs are probably shielded from the general public and most forum members, but administrators may review them at their discretion.
Interesting. I was not able to see any PM's at ATM, I wish I could have as there was a whole underground sub clinic going on. A few of the members felt as though they were qualified to treat people due to their "internet diplomas".
 
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