Yes, the symptoms went away. I think also the body with time adjust to a dose. Most are getting away from the high doses and going to the same dose spread out over the day. No, I have gotten away from most everthing except testosterone. I have not tested my GH or IGF-1 levels. I would probably cry if I knew that they were.
You didn't have to be mean but I did click on your link and it didn't work. You could have been more adult about it and just asked if I checked out the link instead of just accusing me of being lazy. But that's also my fault, I should have said to you that it didn't work. So with that being said the second time you posted it it did work, it was good information so thank you, I appreciate it.You can't even bother to click a link. Lazy.
Not surprised as your first posts come off whiny. You don't want to put in any work.
No one brought up SARMs. You have been tipped twice on a clinic now and a pharmacy. Hint: see the link. You even got a detailed breakdown of pricing. Hint: see the link.
Here let me share it again:
SARMs versus AAS: Different Side Effects?
Considerations, Possible Contraindications, and Potential Mechanisms for Deleterious Effect in Recreational and Athletic Use of Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) in Lieu of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids: A Narrative Review Steven B. Machek, Thomas D. Cardaci, Dylan T. Wilburn...www.excelmale.com
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Sorry but this a very rude and ignorant comment. People that make comments like that to other people clearly never been through a very serious medical condition and have no clue what some people are going through. Most of my summer was gone and wasted because I spent 27 days in the hospital and could have died! I was just looking for a little advice about getting some extra help for my condition.
Defy Medical (PA Mike Linkous or Dr Saya) ----> Empower Pharmacy
Each instance of the link works. Glad it was useful.
RIP
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Man, so unfortunate to see people have such negative responses in the comments to a guy clearly expressing to them that he altruistically just wanted to help people and is willing to put himself at risk to do so. That was back in 2002. So it’s even sadder to me to see that 20 years later @Chewy55 can make a thread clearly talking about simply wanting to use Oxandrolone for healing purposes after surgery, and not to do a steroid cycle, and we still have close minded people misunderstanding him, judging him, and making him feel bad for just wanting more information on how to obtain legal Oxandrolone. It’s sad to me that people would still rather spend there time judging than helping, and how people can lack the ability to simply just understand where a person is coming from. Same with ur other post about ur son @BigTex. It blows my mind that people would give u and ur wife crap for doing what u guys did for u step son. What u guys did for him is absolutely amazing. It makes me extremely happy to see people like u and ur wife willing to do whatever it takes to stop ur step son from hurting and struggling and being willing to do whatever it takes to at least give him the opportunity to have a decent life, and step in before it’s too late and prevent him from possibly doing something stupid and taking his own life. My best friend overdosed and died 5 years ago, and there’s not a day that goes by that I didn’t wish I would have stepped in and done something to prevent it. But hindsight is obv 20/20. So I can’t commend u and ur wife more for stepping in when u did and doing something “out of the box” to prevent something like that from happening to ur step son, and then having to live the rest of ur lives in regret. It’s always better to take a risk and do something out of the norm instead of having to live with regret ur whole life. It’s just insane to me how much flack u got for ur post and how much u had to defend urself. Just sad that people can lack the ability to put themselves in someone else’s shoes so much, and misunderstand people to this degree, and would rather use their time to judge people and make them feel bad. But anyways, thanks for posting this. John Crisler was and will always be a pioneer and legend in the HRT space. Beyond sad to lose someone that contributed and risked so much to help people and to progress this field. He’ll forever be missed
Haha well look on the bright side, the lower ur igf-1 levels the more u increase longevity. Pros and cons to everything lol. Getting used to a dose unfortunately wasn’t the case for me. I was using HGH for a long time and just couldn’t get rid of the carpal tunnel issues. Was so bummed about it. Was really looking forward to keeping my igf-1 levels between 300-400 indefinitely. But I’m just trying to take my own advice and focusing on the fact that I’m increasing my lifespan by letting my IGF-1 level continue to decline as I get older. Might eventually see someone about it and see if I would benefit from carpal tunnel surgery. I feel like my grip still isn’t as good as it could be, and the fact that I got such bad carpal tunnel symptoms off of relatively lowish doses tells me that I probably had tissue in my wrists starting to compress against my nerves, and the HGH was just the final straw to make the symptoms pretty unbearable
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I tried using Telmisartan while on it without any noticeable improvements.With all the testing I have seen with peptides, getting the IGF-1 into the 300 - 400 range is not going to happen. But they will certainly put it into a abover aevrage range.
I believe some of the hGH carpal tunnel issues can be prevented.
Hoffman DM, Crampton L, Sernia C, et al. Short-term growth hormone (GH) treatment of GH-deficient adults increases body sodium and extracellular water, but not blood pressure. J Clin Endocrinol Metab1996;81:1123–8.
Short-term growth hormone (GH) treatment of GH-deficient adults increases body sodium and extracellular water, but not blood pressure - PubMed
Initiation of GH treatment in adults is frequently complicated by the development of symptomatic fluid retention. To investigate the mechanism and extent of fluid retention that occurs with dosages of GH used in the treatment of GH-deficient adults, we conducted a double blind study in which...
"We conclude that 1) sodium retention is a physiological effect of GH, but does not cause an acute rise in blood pressure; and 2) the mechanism of sodium and fluid retention is not primarily due to enhanced aldosterone secretion or inhibition of ANP release, but more likely to a direct renal tubular effect."
So GH causes an increase in water absorption by the gut and sodium retention leading to extracellular fluid accumulation, carpal tunnel syndrome but apparently not hypertension.
J. Moller, N. Moller, E. Frandsen, T. Wolthers, J. O. Jorgensen, J. S. Christiansen. Blockade of the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system prevents growth hormone-induced fluid retention in humans. American Journal of Physiology - Endocrinology and Metabolism Published 1 May 1997 Vol. 272 no. 5, E803-E808.
An update of the blockade of the renin angiotensin aldosterone system in clinical practice - PubMed
Monotherapy with an angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor (ACEi) or an angiotensin II receptor blocker (ARB) remains valid in all the guidelines, whereas their dual combination has been discarded due to the absence of proven benefits in high CV risk patients and in patients with chronic kidney...
I found I could use Angiotensin II receptor antagonists to lower the fluid retention while taking hGH.
Thanks for saying that. And yes now both links work now. Probably just something with my crappy computer.
20 mg/d for 6-8 weeks. Then reassess.
LmaoYou can't even bother to click a link. Lazy.
Not surprised as your first posts come off whiny. You don't want to put in any work.
No one brought up SARMs. You have been tipped twice on a clinic now and a pharmacy. Hint: see the link. You even got a detailed breakdown of pricing. Hint: see the link.
Here let me share it again:
SARMs versus AAS: Different Side Effects?
Considerations, Possible Contraindications, and Potential Mechanisms for Deleterious Effect in Recreational and Athletic Use of Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) in Lieu of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids: A Narrative Review Steven B. Machek, Thomas D. Cardaci, Dylan T. Wilburn...www.excelmale.com
There is also this cool feature called search. Check it out.
Yeah he seems like a good guy. There was just a little misunderstanding about me not reading the link. It didn't work at first but then it did and it was helpful. So thank you to him and to you to BigTex and everyone else that posted information.
Nice table! Thank you.
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