Intro

Mountain Man · Nov 24, 2016

Vince said:
The main thing is you're feeling good and satisfied.
Why All Men Should be Tested with the Sensitive Estradiol Test
https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...d-be-Tested-with-the-Sensitive-Estradiol-Test

Thanks so much Vince.

Coastwatcher asked "Why no HCG?" Found out why here. Not Morganthaler's protocol:

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...-Morgentaler-Dr-Rand-McClain-and-Jay-Campbell

CoastWatcher · Nov 24, 2016

Mountain Man said:
Thanks so much Vince.

Coastwatcher asked "Why no HCG?" Found out why here. Not Morganthaler's protocol:

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...-Morgentaler-Dr-Rand-McClain-and-Jay-Campbell

Ah, yes. The ongoing, thankfully low-key, debate about HCG. Just out of curiosity, was it mentioned at all during your consultation?

Mountain Man · Nov 24, 2016

CoastWatcher said:
Ah, yes. The ongoing, thankfully low-key, debate about HCG. Just out of curiosity, was it mentioned at all during your consultation?

No it was not. It is mentioned if you are younger by the clinic if you want to have children. I've had some testicular atrophy, but not much. Been waiting for my wife to notice. She hasn't, so it is minimal at best. Fortunately at ages 62 and 60 and 4 healthy adult sons we are done with that phase of life.

I see the clinic's physician's assistant, who is great. I think they really get psyched to see older guys like me get good results.

CoastWatcher · Nov 24, 2016

Mountain Man said:
No it was not. It is mentioned if you are younger by the clinic if you want to have children. I've had some testicular atrophy, but not much. Been waiting for my wife to notice. She hasn't, so it is minimal at best. Fortunately at ages 62 and 60 and 4 healthy adult sons we are done with that phase of life.

I see the clinic's physician's assistant, who is great. I think they really get psyched to see older guys like me get good results.

I'm 58, my doctor has told me her "older patients" (she was careful in using the phrase) are her most motivated and self-educated when it comes to androgen issues. She enjoys those interactions.

I'd urge you to spend a bit of time studying the HCG question and the role it can play in health beyond testicular vitality. There are excellent sticky posts on the Forum that will allow you to decide if it's something you want to raise with your practice.

Vince · Nov 24, 2016

Mountain Man said:
No it was not. It is mentioned if you are younger by the clinic if you want to have children. I've had some testicular atrophy, but not much. Been waiting for my wife to notice. She hasn't, so it is minimal at best. Fortunately at ages 62 and 60 and 4 healthy adult sons we are done with that phase of life.

I see the clinic's physician's assistant, who is great. I think they really get psyched to see older guys like me get good results.

You could just get a script from your doctor and send it to https://www.empowerpharmacy.com/ that's what some do on this site. I believe you should try it, just my 2 cents.

johndoesmith · Nov 24, 2016

Mountain Man said:
These are my full test results, Finally figured out how to do it:

RESULTS
[TABLE="class: pad5"]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TH="class: tableHead txtm, align: left"]Name[/TH]
[TH="class: tableHead txtm, align: left"]Result[/TH]
[TH="class: tableHead txtm, align: left"]Date[/TH]
[TH="class: tableHead txtm, align: left"]Reference Range[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TOTAL TESTOSTERONE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-09-28[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TESTOSTERONE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]720[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]375-1000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]LH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-09-28[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]LH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]<0.2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.7-11.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]FSH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-09-28[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]FSH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]<1.0[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.7-11.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]ESTRADIOL[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-09-28[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]ESTRADIOL[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]71.9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]20.0-75.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]SHBG[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-09-28[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]SHBG[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]52.1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]20.0-60.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]*HEMATOCRIT-509[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-09-28[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]HEMATOCRIT[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]48.9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]38.5-50.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]*TESTOSTERONE, FREE-58958[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-09-28[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TESTOSTERONE, FREE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.28[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]PSA[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-07-06[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]PSA[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]0.0-4.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TOTAL TESTOSTERONE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-07-06[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TESTOSTERONE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1174[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]375-1000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]LH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-07-06[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]LH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]<0.2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.7-11.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]ESTRADIOL[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-07-06[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]ESTRADIOL[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]70.4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]20.0-75.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]SHBG-30740[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-07-06[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOBULIN[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]50[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]22-77[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]*HEMATOCRIT-509[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-07-06[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]HEMATOCRIT[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]44.0[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]38.5-50.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]*TESTOSTERONE, FREE-58958[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-07-06[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TESTOSTERONE, FREE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.70[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TOTAL TESTOSTERONE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TESTOSTERONE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]377[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]375-1000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]LH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]LH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2.8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.7-11.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]FSH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]FSH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]5.6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.7-11.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]ESTRADIOL[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]ESTRADIOL[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]49.0[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]20.0-75.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]PROLACTIN[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]PROLACTIN[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]10.7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]3.3-20.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TSH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TSH[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]0.5-6.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]HbA1C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]HbA1C[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]6.2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]3.8-6.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]SHBG-30740[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOBULIN[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]59[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]22-77[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]*HEMATOCRIT-509[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]HEMATOCRIT[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]45.7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]38.5-50.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]*TESTOSTERONE, FREE-58958[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2016-05-17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: f13"]
[TD="align: left"]TESTOSTERONE, FREE[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]0.60[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Recently upped the dosage to .5 weekly. I appreciate the feedback from other's. This is the the test panel from Abraham Morganthaler'e clinic in Boston. He was one of the pioneers in TRT, but some have told me some of his methods are no loner cutting edge, or maybe conservative.

Either way, I've been satisfied.

Your results are a bit confusing, seems like you've listed multiple test results, but they aren't organized or explained.

It's best to separate them into, pre TRT, and from individual lab visits.

When were you getting labs on TRT taken relative to injection?

How do you feel overall?

Mountain Man · Nov 24, 2016

johndoesmith said:
Your results are a bit confusing, seems like you've listed multiple test results, but they aren't organized or explained.

It's best to separate them into, pre TRT, and from individual lab visits.

When were you getting labs on TRT taken relative to injection?

How do you feel overall?

The results are dated, with the most recent first. There were 3 dates, 5/17,7/6, and 9/28. The 5/17 were before TRT. All were taken day 7, hour before the next injection.

I feel great. Energy and sex drive improvement were noticeable right away. I was able to work out much harder. In the past month muscle has become easier to produce than at any time in 25-30 years.