Terrible Nandrolone Experience

[45ACP]

This is the biggest bro science myth on the internet these days.

In EVERY STUDY every done with deca only, NOBODY ,and I mean nobody experienced the dreaded "deca dick".

People used deca only (often with primo etc) back in the golden era, "deca dick" was unheard of, you hear that? UN HEARD OF.

It ONLY started happening once people introduced test to the mix.

"Deca dick" do not exist on deca/npp only.

Get your facts straight, people like you are the ones spreading nonsense in this community.


// A guy that gets a limp cock with most test only protocols and who get a SUPER HIGH libido and boner quality on npp only.

NEXT

Not to be argumentative but not everybody is the same.
And when I do Nandrolone by itself I have Deca d***
Oh, and I know two other bodybuilders that have to mix it with testosterone cipionate two parts cip to one part deca and they're still negatively affected by the DECA.

And so by itself Nandrolone decanote it's a recipe for disaster.

Oh, and I know from over 30 years of experience chemically enhanced doing bodybuilding...

 

[45ACP]

Not to be argumentative but not everybody is the same.
And when I do Nandrolone by itself I have Deca d***
Oh, and I know two other bodybuilders that have to mix it with testosterone cipionate two parts cip to one part deca and they're still negatively affected by the DECA.

And so by itself Nandrolone decanote it's a recipe for disaster.

Oh, and I know from over 30 years of experience chemically enhanced doing bodybuilding...

And straight Testosterone Cipionate or Enanthate - or Sustanon gives no negatives like straight Deca!

 

[45ACP]

So I've been on 100mg of testosterone a week for a while now. I split my doses into 50mg twice a week. My doc suggested using 50mg of nandrolone to help with joint pain. I took 25mg of nandrolone with my testosterone dose at the beginning of the week and then I took 25mg more of nandrolone on my mid week injection. Now I've got anxiety and depression a few days later and my d*** doesn't work. WTF?!?! How long does this last? This stuff feels like poison!!!

25 mg is virtually nothing
Weightlifting during a 12 week cycle I use
200 mg Testosterone Cipionate stacked with 125 mg Nandrolone decanote and boost every 7th day
By week 3 I am peaking with blood levels of 350 mg Testosterone and 220 mg Deca
For the remaining 9 weeks - and stable with no sides...

 

[45ACP]

ok. i've been considering a 'low' dose deca myself. 50-100mg max. for some joint/back issues, low grade chronic stuff, nothing else works(not saying deca will). i do not want that dick however. any tips? maybe try 25mg/week?

Such a low dosage 25 mg or 50 mg every 7 days it's not going to give you any benefit as far as recuperative abilities chronic pain joint issues it's just not enough.

Gowever you will get the negative effect and your erectile performance will suffer tremendously - and your desire will be basically non-existent.

And so as a bodybuilder I do take a stack with Testosterone and Deca

Yup - and unfortunately during those 12 weeks sex with my partner is totally not happening. Even with 150 mg generic Viagra!

Then I must wait until all the juice has cleared my system (about 3 - 4 weeks) after that is a 30 day post cycle therapy to get my natural productivity working again...

So unfortunately that's a very steep price one has to pay when doing Deca...

 

[equel]

I don't think I am man enough to try that. Is that not a one way ticket to tranny cravings central?

All aboard! ??

Any other fetishism or pertinent info we should know about with nandrolone decanoate? NPP not available by Rx in US as far as I can tell. Do you notice a difference between ND and NPP?

NPP gives me more energy (and I can quit it quicker, obviously). Deca im a little bit more uh .. "lazy".

Other than that, all same.

I would say that using npp/deca only, u wont feel as "masculine", you dont have that drive to get things done. So I miss that feeling when using npp/deca, maybe adding masteron or proviron would solve that, havent tried.

Adding dbol to it made me exhausted within a few weeks.

 

[equel]

This is just a running hypothesis of mine, but it stands to reason that in some men exogenous testosterone may increase joint pain due to a decrease in collagen production. This same population may feel joint pain relief from nandrolone due to increased collagen synthesis or some other mechanism. Once nandrolone use is stopped, the pain the man feels comes back full force as his collagen production drops back to its original level, resulting in stiff, painful joints.

Feel free to drop some knowledge on me if you have evidence pro or against this hypothesis.

Maybe. I used 1.2g of test for like 5 months. The last month my joints hurt so fucking bad I could barely work out no more. During this time I didnt even add alot of weights to the bar as I just upped the reps and sets instead.

Dropped down to 250 and within 6 weeks joints are good again.

 

[equel]

ok, so did some research on deca dick. it indeed can be real. but not all get it. have not found many cases of it happening below 100mg, but it does happen.
tons of shitty bro-science there, like it is because high prolacting, e2 etc. but essentially it is due to dht competing metabolites, i think DHN or something.

running higher T or taking proviron/masteron could potentially offset deca dick. also they do mention finestiride. taking

i would assume that if you took it only twice at 50mg or so, that despite half life, those metabolites would go down fairly quick reversing deca dick rather fast.
but this is another lesson that long half life drugs need to be avoided. except T cyp.

probably best to stay away from deca completely, it absolutely does not make sense as an bodybuilding compound as there is better stuff out there.

No no no and NO. And stop listening to dr testosterone he kinda retarded tbh.

DECA ONLY IS FINE, again - look at the studies: Nobody suffer "ed" from it.

Theres a big fucking "cult" on ********, by Tieian clark or whatever his name, they all swear by deca only and they love it, they mock idiots on the forum claiming it gives "deca dick" - YES IT DOES IF U ADD TEST, FFS

DONT ADD TEST
NO TEST

ONLY DECA

DO IT

U WILL NOT GET DECA DICK

there u go, listen to be and be fine or dont listen to be, do ur own shit and ur penor will suffer

 

[equel]

Not to be argumentative but not everybody is the same.
And when I do Nandrolone by itself I have Deca d***
Oh, and I know two other bodybuilders that have to mix it with testosterone cipionate two parts cip to one part deca and they're still negatively affected by the DECA.

And so by itself Nandrolone decanote it's a recipe for disaster.

Oh, and I know from over 30 years of experience chemically enhanced doing bodybuilding...

Well, Im all for personal experience

but sir, are you SURE you are telling me the truth here?

HAVE U REALLY USED deca/npp only, U SURE? and u got deca dick, REALLY? ARE you REAALYYYYY telling the truth here??

Cause I have a certain feeling u bullshittin me to "win" here.

But if you are not, if you REALLY used deca ONLY and got deca dick .. okay, well, I guess some can get it then ... but ive never heard about it before and nor is it shown in the studies where they put ppl on deca, nobody experienced some "deca dick", never, so that is pretty damn weird dude.

Damn internet u dunno who to trust here.


Anyway, I never got it, My libido became high AF on deca and the erection quality best ever,m EVER, I can NOT get the same strenght of libido and EQ on test, impossible.

 

[tareload]

Damn internet u dunno who to trust here

You can trust me equel. Thanks for your input and sharing your experiences.

 

[equel]

More shit from my experiments:

Proviron kills my libido even further on high(ish) or even normal trt doses.

Why?

I dunno

Maybe that shit about low shbg guys being DHT dominant is true.

Hence: Adding proviron - further crushing SHBG, even MORE free DHT - coupled with "fake dht" from proviron = extreme DHT dominance

=

waaay too low e2

fucking it all up

just a theory

but probably true

most likely true, actually

input? GO

 

[equel]

Btw, for people interested in deca/npp as base, this is a pretty good podcast with some huge roid monkey.


Sum:
He used to do testosterone as base, always different side effects (bloat, fucked libido, hair loss, energy shit etc).

Decided to try deca as base.

Result:
Better well being, better libido, better gains (deca most likely being more anabolic, dont give a fuck what some victor black idiot say, deca puts on mass let me tell u).

Now he uses deca as base coupled with EQ, masteron, all kinds of shit.

Result: very little to none "side effects" (in terms of bloating and shit like that).

Give it a go!

 

[45ACP]

Well, Im all for personal experience

but sir, are you SURE you are telling me the truth here?

HAVE U REALLY USED deca/npp only, U SURE? and u got deca dick, REALLY? ARE you REAALYYYYY telling the truth here??

Cause I have a certain feeling u bullshittin me to "win" here.

But if you are not, if you REALLY used deca ONLY and got deca dick .. okay, well, I guess some can get it then ... but ive never heard about it before and nor is it shown in the studies where they put ppl on deca, nobody experienced some "deca dick", never, so that is pretty damn weird dude.

Damn internet u dunno who to trust here.


Anyway, I never got it, My libido became high AF on deca and the erection quality best ever,m EVER, I can NOT get the same strenght of libido and EQ on test, impossible.

Hey man I got no reason to b******* you I personally could care less about what you think
I'm telling you from my personal experience. I've been using all kinds of Pharmaceuticals for 35 years now

 

[equel]

Hey man I got no reason to b******* you I personally could care less about what you think
I'm telling you from my personal experience. I've been using all kinds of Pharmaceuticals for 35 years now

Well I cant tell u that ur own experience is incorrect, ofcourse. If thats true its true.

I guess deca only can fuck up ur cock then.

But I havent seen it and in the studies on deca only, its not reported.

And deca-dick was unheard of back in the golden era. If u ask old ass bodybuilders from back then, they didnt even know it was a thing, they just didnt experience it.


But ya maybe some can get a "deca dick" using only deca then, apparently, but i do not believe its that common.

 

[Terry1]

Limited nandrolone experience only at 50mg per week with years of TRT experience.

I’ve found anytime I’ve taken a hormone I notice a change. I can feel it, maybe I’m sensitive to changes I don’t know I can feel a increase in trt dose maybe as low as 10-20mg, that said it’s just at first and my body adjust to the new normal quickly.

I had improvements in Libido, and less water retention lowing my T dose 25mg and adding 50mg of nandrolone per week to my protocol. I did feel alittle different the first week sort of like changing my TRT dose would do. It’s since leveled and if anything I feel more calm.

 

[t_spacemonkey]

lol why do deca users get tranny cravings. pretty weird in my opinion

don't fight your tranny urges. get medical help right away. you will be happy.

 

[t_spacemonkey]

Such a low dosage 25 mg or 50 mg every 7 days it's not going to give you any benefit as far as recuperative abilities chronic pain joint issues it's just not enough.

Gowever you will get the negative effect and your erectile performance will suffer tremendously - and your desire will be basically non-existent.

And so as a bodybuilder I do take a stack with Testosterone and Deca

Yup - and unfortunately during those 12 weeks sex with my partner is totally not happening. Even with 150 mg generic Viagra!

Then I must wait until all the juice has cleared my system (about 3 - 4 weeks) after that is a 30 day post cycle therapy to get my natural productivity working again...

So unfortunately that's a very steep price one has to pay when doing Deca...

this is a fairly generalized statement. not everybody gets dick issues, even at higher doses.

 

[tareload]

don't fight your tranny urges. get medical help right away. you will be happy.

Next appt at 2:30...worked for @Systemlord !

When does natural production return when stopping TRT?

Does natural production come back when stopping TRT? I’m 49 and have been on TRT for 3.5 years because I had severe depression and my Test levels were 150 tested 2 different times. I also had untreated sleep apnea at the time and was drinking a lot. I didn’t take any supplements at the time...

www.excelmale.com

Spoiler: Help is on the way.

 

[t_spacemonkey]

so many theories here. it is plainly wrong to assume that deca will give you DD.
some don't get it. also there is a statement, that regular long acting deca will give you dick, while NPP, won't. this also doesn't make sense pharmacologically speaking. if you inject daily NPP for weeks, it will have the same physiological effect//metabolites as the long ester. the long one will release it slower into the system, and the effects will linger longer.
and finally, i wouldn't be surprised if many men get deca dick, cause they read some horror stories online. then, maybe they had some ED issues in the past (or not), don't get a good erection and instantly come to the conclusion 'yes, I have deca dick now', therefore its true.
i think all in all, despite being a band-aid for joints, if it helps, it might be a worth a try. as it seems to shut you down, it would be probably good only for men on TRT.
i've seen reports of it working for joints at doses as low as 10mg/week, so this might be highly individual as well.

 

[bixt]

People used deca only (often with primo etc)

Your sentence says ONLY. And then OFTEN WITH.

Anyway, therein lies the answer. Primo (a DHT) is\was used in high doses and probably overrode the DHT effects.

Theres a big fucking "cult" on ********, by Tieian clark or whatever his name, they all swear by deca only and they love it, they mock idiots on the forum claiming it gives "deca dick" - YES IT DOES IF U ADD TEST, FFS

DONT ADD TEST
NO TEST

Tell the whole story, not parts of it. They claim deca works solo....at 1000-1400mg/week! (per them, at these higher doses it provides androgenic stimulation). Why are you leaving out this part? I can't say I can agree with that kind of dosing for TRT (this is a TRT forum and not a steroid forum after all). No one in that place has claimed running such a thing as 200mg nand solo for "HRT" and claimed their had excellent libido on that.

 

[equel]

Your sentence says ONLY. And then OFTEN WITH.

Anyway, therein lies the answer. Primo (a DHT) is\was used in high doses and probably overrode the DHT effects.




Tell the whole story, not parts of it. They claim deca works solo....at 1000-1400mg/week! (per them, at these higher doses it provides androgenic stimulation). Why are you leaving out this part? I can't say I can agree with that kind of dosing for TRT (this is a TRT forum and not a steroid forum after all). No one in that place has claimed running such a thing as 200mg nand solo for "HRT" and claimed their had excellent libido on that.

Check the studies buddy., 200mg deca, ZERO problems with libido.