Oral TRT Products: Jatenzo, Tlando, Kyzatrex, & DiTest

[Systemlord]

I have tried Jatenzo on a few occasions, but never got to seven days.

Have you tried Jatenzo after no injections for a couple of weeks?

Stacking both may be causing your problems. I felt bad on Jatenzo 2, 3 and 4th week and I’ll bet it has to do with the cypionate leaving my system and my T levels dropping back into the normal ranges.

 

[Fortunate]

Have you tried Jatenzo after no injections for a couple of weeks?

Stacking both may be causing your problems. I felt bad on Jatenzo 2, 3 and 4th week and I’ll bet it has to do with the cypionate leaving my system and my T levels dropping back into the normal ranges.

Guilty as charged. My feedback is virtually useless as I barely got past a few days.

 

[JM Kane]

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Already on that and unfortunately dealing with pretty severe Peyronies.

 

[granger]

I thought orals were less ideal as caused higher stress on liver esp as take MUCH MUCH larger doses per week. is that false? or was more so with woman oral hormones?

of course risks and benefits to every form so would be interested if anyone has noted elevated liver enzymes etc.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I thought orals were less ideal as caused higher stress on liver esp as take MUCH MUCH larger doses per week. is that false? or was more so with woman oral hormones?

Only true for the old methyl testosterone. Oral testosterone undecanoate does not stress the liver.

In contrast to some other oral testosterone forms, testosterone undecanoate enters the bloodstream via the lymphatic system rather than the portal vein. This is important because substances that enter the bloodstream through the portal vein go directly to the liver.

This "first pass" through the liver can be harmful for certain substances, as it may lead to liver damage. Some oral anabolic steroids, for example, have been linked to liver toxicity due to this first-pass metabolism. However, because testosterone undecanoate is absorbed by the lymphatic system, it bypasses this first pass through the liver, thereby reducing the potential for liver toxicity.

This is a prime example of how the method of drug administration can greatly impact its safety profile. Nonetheless, while oral testosterone undecanoate does not have the same risk for liver toxicity as some other oral steroids, it's essential to use it responsibly and under the guidance of a healthcare provider due to other potential side effects.

 

[madman]

I thought orals were less ideal as caused higher stress on liver esp as take MUCH MUCH larger doses per week. is that false? or was more so with woman oral hormones?

of course risks and benefits to every form so would be interested if anyone has noted elevated liver enzymes etc.

FDA-Approved Oral Testosterone: Jatenzo (Testosterone Undecanoate)

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today approved Jatenzo (testosterone undecanoate), an oral testosterone capsule to treat men with certain forms of hypogonadism. These men have low testosterone levels due to specific medical conditions, such as genetic disorders like Klinefelter syndrome or...

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[granger]

cool, def would be interesting to see anecdotal liver enzymes before and after. would be interesting if would have increase risk of lymphatic cancer growths vs other test.

pretty poor absorption obv, so would be interesting how much untouched passes through stool or if ends up being broken down in the gut. or simply destroyed

also INTERESTING HELPS liver.... but also curious if the other subset got an INCREASE in hepatic fat content, and this subset was just guys who lost weight on trt.
"terestingly, a prodrug of TLANDO, LPCN 1144 (Lipocine, Inc., Salt Lake City, UT, USA) was also noted to decrease the hepatic fat content in a subset of patients from the ambulatory blood pressure trial, and its benefit in treating non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, which is associated with male hypogonadism, is currently being studied."

also a small note said oral test tends to increase hemocrit more "and needs to be studied why this oral form does this" I thought all trt is likely to cause this, some more than others..

not hating, but skeptical hippo eyes just because dose is sooo high, like with most things takes awhile to figure out all the side effects. but also may just be a great TRT option..

but ya, waiting with bated breath how folks labs change esp with liver/hemocrit. not much easier than pills! no cross contamination, no embolism/infections, and presumably less HPTA shut down as short acting... neat stuff

 

[Nelson Vergel]

THE STATE OF ORAL TRT: FEELING THE IMPACT OF TRENDS IN PRACTICE AND PATIENT CARE

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[Nelson Vergel]

Comparison of Jatenzo, Kyzatrex, and Tlando​

Overview​

Jatenzo, Kyzatrex, and Tlando are all oral testosterone undecanoate (TU) formulations used for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in men with hypogonadism. These medications offer an alternative to traditional intramuscular injections and topical gels, providing a more convenient oral administration route.

Mechanism of Action​

All three drugs work by replacing the testosterone that is not being produced naturally by the body. They are metabolized through the lymphatic system, which helps avoid liver toxicity, a significant issue with earlier oral testosterone formulations.

Dosage and Administration​

• Jatenzo: The recommended starting dose is 237 mg taken orally twice daily with food. The dosage can be adjusted based on serum testosterone levels, with a range from 158 mg to 396 mg twice daily.
• Kyzatrex: The starting dose is 200 mg taken orally twice daily with food. The dosage can be adjusted based on serum testosterone levels, with a range from 100 mg once daily to 400 mg twice daily.
• Tlando: The recommended dose is 225 mg taken orally twice daily with food. Unlike Jatenzo and Kyzatrex, Tlando does not require dose adjustments.

Efficacy​

• Jatenzo: In clinical trials, Jatenzo achieved eugonadal testosterone levels in 87% of participants. It has shown significant improvements in sexual and mood symptoms, bone mineral density, and lean body mass.
• Kyzatrex: In a phase III trial, 96.1% of participants achieved normal testosterone levels after 90 days. The drug was well-tolerated, with no serious adverse events reported.
• Tlando: Approximately 80% of subjects attained testosterone levels within the eugonadal range in clinical studies. Tlando has also shown beneficial effects on sexual and mood symptoms.

Side Effects​

• Jatenzo: Common side effects include gastrointestinal reactions (nausea, diarrhea) and a small but significant increase in systolic blood pressure (4.9 mmHg).
• Kyzatrex: The most notable side effect is a slight increase in systolic blood pressure (1.7 mmHg). No serious adverse events were observed in the study.
• Tlando: Similar to Jatenzo, Tlando has been associated with increases in blood pressure and prolactin levels. The mean increase in systolic blood pressure was 3.8 mmHg.

Cost and Insurance​

The cost and insurance coverage for these medications can vary. All three drugs are prescription-only and may present a barrier for some patients due to cost and lack of insurance coverage.

Conclusion​

Jatenzo, Kyzatrex, and Tlando offer effective and convenient oral options for testosterone replacement therapy. Each has its own dosing regimen and side effect profile, but all have shown to be effective in achieving normal testosterone levels in hypogonadal men. The choice between these medications may depend on individual patient needs, side effect tolerance, and cost considerations.


Citations:
[1] Jatenzo vs Tlando Comparison - Drugs.com
[2] Oral Drugs Offer New Option for Testosterone Replacement
[3] A phase III, single-arm, 6-month trial of a wide-dose range oral testosterone undecanoate product
[4] Oral Testosterone Replacement Therapy: What’s Available and What Took so Long? - American Urological Association
[5] Kyzatrex vs Tlando Comparison - Drugs.com
[6] https://www.goodrx.com/classes/androgens/oral-testosterone-vs-injection
[7] https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/andro.2022.0011
[8] Testosterone oral agents (JATENZO, TLANDO) - www.westernhealth.com
[9] Testosterone Replacement Therapy: A Narrative Review with a Focus on New Oral Formulations
[10] A Review of Testosterone Therapy Options for Men
[11] https://www.touchendocrinology.com/...review-with-a-focus-on-new-oral-formulations/
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[13] Testosterone Update on Oral Products

 

[BigBeard411]

where is the cheapest place I can get Kyzatrex with no insurance?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

where is the cheapest place I can get Kyzatrex with no insurance?

Here is a directory: Get Started | Why Kyzatrex | Safe, Easy, Up to 96% Effective

 

[Nelson Vergel]

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[BigBeard411]

Here is a directory: Get Started | Why Kyzatrex | Safe, Easy, Up to 96% Effective

any experience with any of these? LifeForce seems the cheapest (349$ membership plus 149 a month thereafter. I see it is endorsed by Tony Robinson (I jsut associate him with con artist)

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I would use an urologist that can charge your insurance for the visits. Kyzatrex would be self-pay.
Here is a directory of doctors:

KYZATREX® Physician Finder | Low Testosterone Treatment

Find a healthcare provider in your area who is familiar with managing low testosterone with KYZATREX®, a FDA Approved oral testosterone supplement for men suffering from low T

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[madman]

where is the cheapest place I can get Kyzatrex with no insurance?

One average $149 and even then keep in mind this is for the starting dose 200 mg 2x/day.

Some men will not achieve high enough levels on such and may need to titrate up to 300 or 400 mg dosed twice daily (600-800 mg/day)!

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KYZATREX (oral testosterone undecanoate) now available in all states across the US

https://www.kyzatrex.com/prescriber.html KYZATREX (testosterone undecanoate) is an oral testosterone replacement therapy specifically designed for adult males with conditions associated with a deficiency or absence of endogenous testosterone, such as primary hypogonadism and hypogonadotropic...

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[ryan.base]

where is the cheapest place I can get Kyzatrex with no insurance?

I've seen Kyzatrex at Blokes for 199, regardless of the dose strength.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

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[madman]

One average $149 and even then keep in mind this is for the starting dose 200 mg 2x/day.

Some men will not achieve high enough levels on such and may need to titrate up to 300 or 400 mg dosed twice daily (600-800 mg/day)!

Look over post #48!




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KYZATREX (oral testosterone undecanoate) now available in all states across the US

https://www.kyzatrex.com/prescriber.html KYZATREX (testosterone undecanoate) is an oral testosterone replacement therapy specifically designed for adult males with conditions associated with a deficiency or absence of endogenous testosterone, such as primary hypogonadism and hypogonadotropic...

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