My HPTA recovery log: I have reversed my type 2 diabetes (SHBG 31/glucose 80) and may have never had hypogonadism!!

[Phil Goodman]

Yes i was going to say this too, i have personally been able to reap benefits of testosterone after stopping for quite some time.

Interesting. How long did you maintain the positive benefits, and how long did it take for the negatives to return(if they ever did)? When hearing stories of people stopping we usually hear about them feeling like crap pretty quickly, but I wonder how much of that is “placebo” and how much is due to the actual decrease in levels and/or return of negatives.

 

[Systemlord]

I figured out what’s causing my issues with regards to eating red meat and thinking I’m experiencing excess iron absorption, it’s not that. I consume vitamin C *****’s in the morning along with 1 ounce of orange juice to equal 100 mg of vitamin C, which is my perfect dose. Anymore any less and it goes too far on the other direction.

My skin turns orange when my vitamin C levels get too high and I don’t feel too well when it’s starting to fall. The point here is on the carnivore diet. My body hasn’t transitioned over to using fat for energy because I’m eating a very, very small amount of carbs, which is precisely the problem.

If my body still operating on carbs that I’m eating a very small amount, that’s not enough to get me through the day. So I performed a little experiment. After eating red meat and feeling weak I went and ate something with moderate carbs and bamb, energy through the entire day!

Those symptoms disappeared quickly. I really need to find vitamin C that’s 100 mg and doesn’t have any carbs in it so I can go on a true carnivore diet to wear my body transitions over to fat for energy.

If I eat red peppers with vitamin C in it, I can’t do it properly, i’ll get too much. Also, red peppers has 6 grams carbs in it.

Vitamin C supplement equaling 100 mg, how?

Any ideas?

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Vitamin C supplement equaling 100 mg, how?

https://www.amazon.com/PRONUCARE-Refreshing-Relieving-Ultrafine-Absorption/dp/B07QP8V6P3/

Kal C-Rex:

Amazon.com

 

[Seagal]

I figured out what’s causing my issues with regards to eating red meat and thinking I’m experiencing excess iron absorption, it’s not that. I consume vitamin C *****’s in the morning along with 1 ounce of orange juice to equal 100 mg of vitamin C, which is my perfect dose. Anymore any less and it goes too far on the other direction.

My skin turns orange when my vitamin C levels get too high and I don’t feel too well when it’s starting to fall. The point here is on the carnivore diet.

My body hasn’t transitioned over to using fat for energy because I’m eating a very, very small amount of carbs, which is precisely the problem.

Observation very good. IMHO you jump to quickly to conclusions.

If my body still operating on carbs that I’m eating a very small amount, that’s not enough to get me through the day. So I performed a little experiment. After eating red meat and feeling weak I went and ate something with moderate carbs and bamb, energy through the entire day!

Here one could also assume that a long-acting carb source might be beneficial

Those symptoms disappeared quickly. I really need to find vitamin C that’s 100 mg and doesn’t have any carbs in it so I can go on a true carnivore diet to wear my body transitions over to fat for energy.

Enough fat in your diet? You can experiment with the prot/fat ratio

If I eat red peppers with vitamin C in it, I can’t do it properly, i’ll get too much. Also, red peppers has 6 grams carbs in it.

What you mentioned previously makes sense, your perception (brain,cns) is oversensitive compared to the average.

Vitamin C supplement equaling 100 mg, how?

Any ideas?

 

[Mastodont]

Please don’t forget about my father’s low T value in his 70’s. He’s doing very well at 91 and still very mobile. He moves around at a quick pace. He still washes his own cars, pays golf and does normal stuff and even dances.

Like father like son.

The only thing holding me back slightly is the vitamin D related problem. My body seems to have a love-hate relationship with vitamin D. I’m either urinating out lots of calcium, and when I’m not urinating out my calcium, the leg swelling and redness occurs, all pointing to hypercalcemia like symptoms.

Newsflash, you can still have normal parathyroid hormone with normal calcium, and have a parathyroid hormone problem.

I'm sorry if it has been asked frequently but have you tried cutting the d out for a while, seems you are hellbent on taking it daily? And please elaborate how you can have a parathyroid problem with none of the markers? You are supposed to check albumin corrected or ionized calcium as i'm sure you are aware.

Interesting. How long did you maintain the positive benefits, and how long did it take for the negatives to return(if they ever did)? When hearing stories of people stopping we usually hear about them feeling like crap pretty quickly, but I wonder how much of that is “placebo” and how much is due to the actual decrease in levels and/or return of negatives.

up to six months, it does gradually decline and there is a dip at first but when the bodys functions normalize i guess it works better for a while and you get a boost in hormones that tend to lag while on testosterone, like progesterone...not sure but i know of others that have gotten higher natural t-levels compared to pre trt, then to eventually see it decline again. Nagging pains and loss of recovery are usually signs that what was cured on t has been ruined by low t once again...pretty sure eunuchs never performed much physical labour.

 

[Systemlord]

And please elaborate how you can have a parathyroid problem with none of the markers?

There’s a new variant only discovered a year ago, where the only tell tale sign is elevated urinary calcium, but has normal serum calcium, and normal parathyroid hormone.

Elevated calcium excretion through the urine and all the classic symptoms of parathyroidism. My shoulders hurt like hell, especially when I urinate. My urine is very dark, urinary calcium is elevated and it’s difficult to urinate in the morning.

Kidneys checkout, liver is fine.

I’ve had to reduce my dose of vitamin D down below 1000 IU, as I can’t tolerate anything above that without side effects. 2000 IU was fine to get my levels up, but it is not a maintenance dosage for me.

You are supposed to check albumin corrected or ionized calcium as i'm sure you are aware.

I didn’t know that and I don’t think my Kaiser doctors know that either.