Gene's Nitric Oxide Stack

[The Dude]

I would say that any supplement must vary by body weight - you would expect that an elephant requires a greater quantity than a mouse, of anything.

But I think that also, each person's reaction to a given dose is different. So, Gene's stack is a starting point, and feel free to adjust according to your body's reaction.

For myself, I find that any dose of tadalafil of more than 3.5mg gives me side effects, while others have no problem with 5mg.

 

[The Dude]

Thanks Dude.
You mentioned adding red beet to the stack. Is there a particular brand that you find effective?

I use Activz, because of the handful of brands that I checked, it has the lowest price per beet - amongst those that seemed good quality. Mysteriously, the 7oz size is consistently less per ounce than the 1.1 lb size, but that may vary.

Flora is a little better tasting, but is twice as much per beet.

BeetElite Neo Shot is a decent value IF you buy the Canister (rather than the individual packets), BUT I've found I get a mild allergic reaction to Stevia (undoubtedly because it is related to ragweed), so I can't use their product.

 

[skycop00]

Anyone had heartburn or reflux with the stack ingredients? I also get a strange tired (dull ache) feeling from sacral area down hamstrings. Took about 5 weeks to start both issues. I am going to work backwards and figure out the culprits. Taking all except the Pycogenol.

 

[fun2drive]

I do and think it is coming from the pill form of L-Arg. I am switching back to the powder. Once I take the stack and head to bed there after a while later I have heart burn. If I use powder form L-Arg I don't. That is the only difference thus I know what is causing it for me.

 

[skycop00]

Thanks for the reply. I have been using the powder forms from Amazon in bulk. Took a long time to start those two issues though. I never had heartburn before. I was just curious if anyone else had issues.

 

[skycop00]

I actually thought that the Doxazosin was relaxing the LES valve (Lower Esophageal sphincter) thus allowing stomach acid to elevate.

 

[Tommy Wall]

I get heartburn from Cialis so only take it once a day. This stack for me is way to much so I take only 50% and not all of the supplements. This stack is suppose to boost NO and should make you alert. But for me L-Citrulline can make me fatigue as well with a slight headace (it is a side effect that can happen).

 

[dallas101346]

Would this stack be appropriate for a guy who is 30, on trt, but no erection issues?

 

[The Dude]

Would this stack be appropriate for a guy who is 30, on trt, but no erection issues?

First - ask your doctor.

Second - if you have normal blood pressure, I would say "no". If you have high blood pressure, then ask your doctor if this is an appropriate treatment for you.

 

[dallas101346]

Well I could leave out the alpha blockers etc... but having the amino acids etc might be good for me. I didnt realize this stack was only appropriate for high BP.

 

[The Dude]

Well I could leave out the alpha blockers etc... but having the amino acids etc might be good for me. I didnt realize this stack was only appropriate for high BP.

I wouldn't quite go that far.

But for someone who is 30 years old, and has no erection issues, and has no BP issues, then your Nitric Oxide levels are probably fine.

If you workout, you can certainly use Arginine and L-Citrulline and Beets in conjunction with a workout (or distance running/cycling).

 

[Gene Devine]

Would this stack be appropriate for a guy who is 30, on trt, but no erection issues?

Yes, but you would have no need for the Doxazosin and Cialis.

The rest are good supplements for blood flow and other health benefits.

If you lift and train hard and like a killer long lasting hard pump...you need to give this a try...and the vascularity is sick!!!

 

[Juan Valdez]

I've been doing some of this stack twice a day after first trying just Cialis first.

I first tried Cialis 5 mg 1 x a day. Nothing happened.

Tried 10 mg. 2 x's a day. Not anything special.

Tried 5 mg 2 x's a day. Better results than both of the above but still not as hard as I would like.

Tried 5 mg's only 2 x's a day with:
3000 mg of L-Arginine
1500 mg of L-Citrulline
]50 mg of Pycnogenol

Have not added any Horny Goat Weed and ]Doxazosin. ]I asked questions about Horny Goat Weed and Doxzosin but never got a response, so just went with what I have listed so far.

]And the results have been fantastic. I feel like a different guy libido and erection wise. It's like night and day. I wake up with a strong erection every morning (and if I aware during the night I have one then, too. I'm all over my wife these days as a result and I had zero luck with Testosterone, Arimidex, HCG, AND Cialis alone.

Very thankful for this information.

 

[Juan Valdez]

Was having daily headaches upon waking up. I've narrowed it down to the L-Arginine. When I stop taking it, headaches go away, but so does the very hard erections and strong libido. Any suggestions?

 

[driscojf]

I am not sure of the protocol here, I don't have a response for Juan Valdez, just a comment regarding TRT and Gene's stack. I'll keep it simple - TRT has helped me immensely with energy, mood and endurance but did not do much for libido or getting erections. I don't want to minimize the effects of TRT - I am a different person and am enjoying life so much more than I had thought possible. However, I did miss the libido of my youth and when I read through the threads of Gene's stack I thought I would give it a whirl. So far all I have done is the L-arginine and citrulline and the effect was immediate - rock hard erections and a stronger libido. A major thank you to Vergel, to Gene, and to everyone who contributes to this site. At 57 years old I feel as good as I have every felt at any age.

 

[Gene Devine]

I am not sure of the protocol here, I don't have a response for Juan Valdez, just a comment regarding TRT and Gene's stack. I'll keep it simple - TRT has helped me immensely with energy, mood and endurance but did not do much for libido or getting erections. I don't want to minimize the effects of TRT - I am a different person and am enjoying life so much more than I had thought possible. However, I did miss the libido of my youth and when I read through the threads of Gene's stack I thought I would give it a whirl. So far all I have done is the L-arginine and citrulline and the effect was immediate - rock hard erections and a stronger libido. A major thank you to Vergel, to Gene, and to everyone who contributes to this site. At 57 years old I feel as good as I have every felt at any age.

^^^^Good stuff!

 

[Juan Valdez]

Gene - Do you have any advice if L-Arginine give headaches?

 

[hotstud]

Many have used this stack for massive hard pumps in the gym, significant vascularity and excellent erectile function not discounting the health benefits. If you're looking for any of these benefits and more...give it a try!

Nitric Oxide Stack
Bed Time
5 mg of Tadalafil (Cialis)
3000 mg of L-Arginine
1500 mg of L-Citrulline
50 mg of Pycnogenol
150 mg of Icariin (Horny Goat Weed)
1 mg of Doxazosin (Alpha Blocker)



Morning
3000 mg of L-Arginine
1500 mg of L-Citrulline
50 mg of Pycnogenol
150 mg of Icariin (Horny Goat Weed)



Afternoon
5 mg of Tadalafil (Cialis)
3000 mg of L-Arginine
1500 mg of L-Citrulline
50 mg of Pycnogenol
150 mg of Icariin (Horny Goat Weed)
1 mg of Doxazosin (Alpha Blocker)

Gene, I just found your "stack" and I am totally in shock. I have been working for years on my "stack" (without ever seeing yours) and I came virtually to the same stack composition. There are only minor differences which are as follows:

10-20 mg Tadalafil (Cialis) / day
2800 mg l-Arginine 2x / day
1200 mg l-Citruline 2x / day
3000 mg d-Aspartic acid / day
200 mg Pycnogenol / day
600 to 1200 mg of pure 60% Icariin / day
1200 to 2400 mg Horny Goat Weed / day
160-320 mg Tongkat Ali / day
1 mg of Doxazosin 1 - 3 times a day

In addition I take 10 mg AndroGel / day

My stack composition is same as yours except I have 2 additional components. Also I am bit more flexible with the daily amounts and timing: I can VERY CLEARLY FEEL how is the stack working so I slightly adjust daily total amounts to my morning feeling from the previous day stack impact on my body and also on my plans for the day. What shocks me most is how similar our stacks are. Also, I am not that heavily into body building, I am more into longevity (I am 77 YO) and sex performance optimization. Regarding the erection and sex performance, this stack is an absolute killer.

 

[Juan Valdez]

I guess not.

 

[Vince Carter]

Look for quality and purity indicators on your L-Arginine, modify the dosage and timing, or just stop taking it.