DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost

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Interesting, they sell allopregnanolone nasal spray too.

Thats worth some researching...
 
Bad news: this diktator cream is bunk. I used a pretty large amount last night and it didn't do a damn thing. I am very familiar with DHT feels between scrotal cream getting my DHT above 350 ng/dL and use of proviron. This diktator cream does absolutely nothing.

You will recall earlier in this thread I said this:

I asked my associate about this (a scientist) and these are his words regarding Diktator cream:

I am taking dutasteride with MENT
So literally no DHT in my body
The dht cream elevated my serum dht

When I reported my experience with diktator cream to this person, he mentioned that he had also been taking oral testosterone at the same time of his labs that showed some DHT. Oral testosterone substantially elevates DHT into supraphysiologic ranges, very similar to scrotal cream actually. Also, he only had 35 ng/dL of DHT. That is a number that I would expect given the interaction between dutasteride and the oral testosterone (without the dutasteride, it probably would have been 150+ ng/dL). You can see from the results in this thread, and if you look at the customer bloodwork frequently posted by AlphaGels, that effective DHT gel raises serum DHT levels into at least the several hundred ng/dL range.

So, we are both convinced now diktator cream is garbage. It's possible that it contains no DHT, or it's possible that it does, but contains no penetration enhancers like DMSO that would permit the DHT to actually absorb through the skin. Either way, it doesn't work.

I ordered some 20% DHT gel from Alpha Gels to try next, based on Trevor's results here, and what they've posted on Twitter. I like that they seem to actually care about helping people and promoting masculinity. The combination of UGL with coaching and advocacy is pretty unique.
 
Bad news: this diktator cream is bunk. I used a pretty large amount last night and it didn't do a damn thing. I am very familiar with DHT feels between scrotal cream getting my DHT above 350 ng/dL and use of proviron. This diktator cream does absolutely nothing.

You will recall earlier in this thread I said this:



When I reported my experience with diktator cream to this person, he mentioned that he had also been taking oral testosterone at the same time of his labs that showed some DHT. Oral testosterone substantially elevates DHT into supraphysiologic ranges, very similar to scrotal cream actually. Also, he only had 35 ng/dL of DHT. That is a number that I would expect given the interaction between dutasteride and the oral testosterone (without the dutasteride, it probably would have been 150+ ng/dL). You can see from the results in this thread, and if you look at the customer bloodwork frequently posted by AlphaGels, that effective DHT gel raises serum DHT levels into at least the several hundred ng/dL range.

So, we are both convinced now diktator cream is garbage. It's possible that it contains no DHT, or it's possible that it does, but contains no penetration enhancers like DMSO that would permit the DHT to actually absorb through the skin. Either way, it doesn't work.

I ordered some 20% DHT gel from Alpha Gels to try next, based on Trevor's results here, and what they've posted on Twitter. I like that they seem to actually care about helping people and promoting masculinity. The combination of UGL with coaching and advocacy is pretty unique.
Try one more time followed up by some DMSO. Or even try mixing some in with it before application. I use this product a lot with excellent results:


It's mild and has no foul garlic odor. I have made a bunch of different formulas using this as a base. You can make your own version of "Scream Cream" with it using Arginine and Testosterone. I have a lot of 1 ml bottles of cypionate, I put a bottle in along with the Arginine in the 2oz size. It lasts a long time. Your wife just has to be a little adventurous (and brave) to give it a try. It works...;)
 
Try one more time followed up by some DMSO. Or even try mixing some in with it before application. I use this product a lot with excellent results:


It's mild and has no foul garlic odor. I have made a bunch of different formulas using this as a base. You can make your own version of "Scream Cream" with it using Arginine and Testosterone. I have a lot of 1 ml bottles of cypionate, I put a bottle in along with the Arginine in the 2oz size. It lasts a long time. Your wife just has to be a little adventurous (and brave) to give it a try. It works...;)
That's a good idea, to see if there is actually some dht in there and to potentially get some value out of my purchase. I ordered the DMSO gel and will report back if it is able to improve the diktator cream efficacy.

My wife is already on test enanthate injections so I wouldn't want to do any additional test on top of that.
 
That's a good idea, to see if there is actually some dht in there and to potentially get some value out of my purchase. I ordered the DMSO gel and will report back if it is able to improve the diktator cream efficacy.

My wife is already on test enanthate injections so I wouldn't want to do any additional test on top of that.
This cream is applied to the "Hot Button" in small amounts...;)
 
Another benefit I noticed this week... It appears DHT helps to shed fat. I have made no recent dietary changes and have lost 5 lbs. The weight loss is concurrent with the onset of usage.


Conclusions​

These data indicate that hypogonadism impairs glucose metabolism and increases obesogenic fat mass expansion through adipocyte hypertrophy and adipogenesis. In addition, our findings highlight distinct roles for testosterone, DHT, and estradiol in the regulation of total fat mass and fat distribution and reveal that androgen signaling blocks obesogenic adipogenesis in vivo.
 
Another benefit I noticed this week... It appears DHT helps to shed fat. I have made no recent dietary changes and have lost 5 lbs. The weight loss is concurrent with the onset of usage.


Conclusions​

These data indicate that hypogonadism impairs glucose metabolism and increases obesogenic fat mass expansion through adipocyte hypertrophy and adipogenesis. In addition, our findings highlight distinct roles for testosterone, DHT, and estradiol in the regulation of total fat mass and fat distribution and reveal that androgen signaling blocks obesogenic adipogenesis in vivo.
Could be water?
 
I am getting a lot of requests for information on how to compound your own product. Here is a great resource that works for any raw powder, medication or supplement you want to use:


There is also a great DMSO product that you can use instead:

 
Could be water

Likely this , DHT after while can start causing Low E2 sides. While I have never used DHT , I have read encounters where people use Scrotal test cream and feel great for a little bit then get low e2 like sides. My friend used to use straight DHT cream, would shed water weight, then start to develop tendinitis, loss of libido, etc. That's when he knew is cycle with DHT was done. I do remember reading articles where DHT has some effect on E2.
 
Likely this , DHT after while can start causing Low E2 sides. While I have never used DHT , I have read encounters where people use Scrotal test cream and feel great for a little bit then get low e2 like sides. My friend used to use straight DHT cream, would shed water weight, then start to develop tendinitis, loss of libido, etc. That's when he knew is cycle with DHT was done. I do remember reading articles where DHT has some effect on E2.
I have had no symptoms of estrogen imbalance.
Likely this , DHT after while can start causing Low E2 sides. While I have never used DHT , I have read encounters where people use Scrotal test cream and feel great for a little bit then get low e2 like sides. My friend used to use straight DHT cream, would shed water weight, then start to develop tendinitis, loss of libido, etc. That's when he knew is cycle with DHT was done. I do remember reading articles where DHT has some effect on E2.
DHT has multiple effects on estrogen production, so it would be possible that some may see a dip in all estrogen production. I have personally not had any of those symptoms.

As stated in previous threads, I think this is substance best used on demand, but that is just my opinion. I admit to getting a bit overzealous with it at first because it's freaking awesome. Long term regular usage could have some detrimental side effects for some.

As a note, the effects are somewhat different between application sites. Applied to the perineum, the libido boost is stronger, and you can feel a buzz in your prostate. Applied to the penis, it results in a milder libido boost but increases sensitivity and orgasm intensity. I have heard of some putting on the shoulder, I have not tried that.
 

Amazing how he presents it as cutting edge. Isn't it long known? Maybe it's new to TRT but then he is supposed to work with pros. He never mentioned T propionate. Anyway, the point is it's about having this DHT effect.
LYFAO mad man ;), all that matters is FT in range...
 

Amazing how he presents it as cutting edge. Isn't it long known? Maybe it's new to TRT but then he is supposed to work with pros. He never mentioned T propionate. Anyway, the point is it's about having this DHT effect.
LYFAO mad man ;), all that matters is FT in range...
Not much is new, just a new audience that has reached the age of discovery about the subject. And yet another YouTuber desperate for content that inspires a click ;)
 
That is a lot of propionate... Definitely not for me. Also, if he is experiencing those bennies on 2.5, just imagine the difference with 10%.
Interesting…I’m planning to do an experiment with 20% DHT gel applied to my penis for 3 months. This will be in addition to the typical dose I’m taking daily. I’ll report back my findings.

Has anyone else experimented with this over a longer duration of time?
 

Amazing how he presents it as cutting edge. Isn't it long known? Maybe it's new to TRT but then he is supposed to work with pros. He never mentioned T propionate. Anyway, the point is it's about having this DHT effect.
LYFAO mad man ;), all that matters is FT in range...

Putting words in peoples mouths now I see?

Give your head a shake!

Next time you speak my name get ur SHIT STR8 on here!

Your buddies from bumNATION polluting your mind?

@Systemlord your sidekick lost all his motherf**king CRED here!

You very well know where I stand and what I have stated numerous times on the forum!

Multifactorial.....hammer that in your dome!

Common theme I have always stressed on here!

Write yourself a sticky note!

Again as usual libido is multifactorial much more involved than just hitting a healthy FT, DHT or estradiol level.

Far from a given driving up your DHT is going to be the missing link to your non-existent libido.

The only way too know is through trial and error.

It's a myth that one needs to have high-end let alone absurdly high FT or DHT levels in order to have a healthy libido.

Gotta love it sheep mentality at its finest!

LMFAO!




20f**king20 BRUH!

Point I have always stressed here from the GET-GO libido/ED both multifactorial much more going on than just hormones!

Common f**king theme here!

Nuff said!


*Keep in mind that although testosterone metabolites estradiol and DHT play a critical role in libido/erections that there is much more involved than just testosterone, estradiol, dihydrotestosterone, prolactin.

*Although having healthy hormones is essential.....libido/ED is multifactorial!







 
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I wasn’t able to get a script for DHT gel from my doctor so I sourced it from AlphaGels which don’t require a script.
I ran a lab test with the Alphagels 20% DHT gel. I used 1 ml in the evening before the test, used 1 ml the morning of the test, and then went and had the test performed about 5 hours after the morning application. 317 ng/dL was the result. I was expecting higher, given I hit 340 ng/dL with scrotal test cream, so that is a little strange. I applied the Alphagel on my shoulders instead of my scrotum, so maybe that would explain it, as the shoulder skin is thicker. Still, the Alphagels product definitely contains DHT and definitely absorbs to a significant degree.

One complaint: this stuff causes significant skin irritation when you first apply it. It seems to dissipate over time, but initially it makes the entire area red and inflamed looking. This is not a skin-friendly product like an HRT base cream or equivalent. I guess the redness and burning sensation are reminders that you're dealing with a UGL product here.
 
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