Testicle Stretching

Just wondering if anyone else has tried this? I started a few months ago and have been very happy with the experience. My balls have always been a good size, but more often than not they cling close to the body and rarely have a decent sag to them. I think a lot of my issues stem from muscle tightness in the pelvic region, and maybe partly due to how my body regulates temperature. I’ve always been more sensitive to cold, and it takes a LOT of heat for me to sweat. I’m also one of those guys whose balls occasionally venture up into the body during sex, so likely also an aspect of “that’s just how I am” to it. But stretching has improved this a lot so it may be worth exploring if anyone out there has similar experiences. And as added benefits it has seemed to increase my sex drive, and I often get erections when wearing them. Disclaimer though, I’ve never had an issue with libido or erections so those extra benefits may not present for everyone. It also usually improves orgasm, and that’s a benefit I’d say is probably likely to be more common for more/most wearers. I haven’t pulled the trigger on the weights though, as I’m pretty nervous about strapping something on down there that has magnets or requires a screw to tighten(nightmare scenario and probably an unreasonable fear… but what happens if the screw head gets stripped?). I just use the silicone rings that stretch by pulling, so I’d recommend starting with those if anyone is interested.

And @madman I’d be interested to see an article or two on the topic if you ever stumble across any on the subject since you share so many other great resources.

While I would never have mentioned it otherwise, the nature of this email addresses one negative aspect of my T therapy that I've noticed. Having been on TE for a year, most results are positive, but one thing that I don't like is that my scrotum is pulled much tighter to my body (like when I was a kid) than it was pre T. Yes, it's quite vain to mention it, but in front of my wife I'd rather have some swinging nuts the way it used to be.

Does anybody have that result from T use, or know why this happens? I might not be averse to trying some of those silicone bands if they would help, but isn't there a danger of cutting off the blood supply to your testicles?

Melody68 said:

While I would never have mentioned it otherwise, the nature of this email addresses one negative aspect of my T therapy that I've noticed. Having been on TE for a year, most results are positive, but one thing that I don't like is that my scrotum is pulled much tighter to my body (like when I was a kid) than it was pre T. Yes, it's quite vain to mention it, but in front of my wife I'd rather have some swinging nuts the way it used to be.

Does anybody have that result from T use, or know why this happens? I might not be averse to trying some of those silicone bands if they would help, but isn't there a danger of cutting off the blood supply to your testicles?

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Are you also on HCG? That will prevent testicular atrophy and possibly restore some of the hang that you used to have. Some people don’t do well with it though, so if you are one of those people I’m not sure it’d be worth dealing unwanted sides just for some lower hand. I never had great hang even before starting T, so didn’t really notice a difference in that regard after starting. We always hear about the atrophy aspect, so perhaps that includes reduced hang for most. If so I’d imagine it’s just related to them getting basically shut down, so the body probably handles them differently.

There is a danger with circulation if you do it wrong, but it’s pretty simple. That’s also why I didn’t go with the metal weights since I imagine it could be difficult to get the size/diameter right. You basically just have to go slow and listen to your body. For example with the bands you should get 4-6 in a pack. When I started I’d always put them on after a hot bath when things were already really loose. Starting out you don’t keep them on as long, and start with a lower number. So for example you might only put 2 on and leave them on for 20 minutes before taking them off. But over time you’ll get to where you could have 4-5 on and probably leave them on safely for as long as you want. The main thing is to just be consistent and go slow. I mean, you are stretching skin and muscles and even other types of tissue. Just ease into it and keep building up over time.

Another benefit I’ve noticed is that my flaccid size is usually a little bigger. I’ve always been more of a grow-er than a show-er(basically seems average or even a little small when soft but is above average when hard. But it seems that stretching the skin around it from ball stretching makes my junk hang lower as well. Not really a big deal since I’d say erect size is obviously more important, but it is more comfortable and if I’m being honest it is a bit of a boost even if it is just my wife and I that see it.

I like to keep things simple, so I don't take HCG, only the T. It's been about a year now and I've had about 20% testicle shrinkage - they're fine, you don't really notice it. But the tighter scrotum bugs me a bit; your point about the body treating them differently because they've shut down makes sense.

Your scrotum is tighter because of the atrophy. I take HCG and it helps a lot. Also, HCG mimics LH which wakes up the boys and they make of my own natural testosterone. I reduce my dose of t-cyp as a result. Labs are spot on and the boys hang normally too.

VacationMan said:

Your scrotum is tighter because of the atrophy. I take HCG and it helps a lot. Also, HCG mimics LH which wakes up the boys and they make of my own natural testosterone. I reduce my dose of t-cyp as a result. Labs are spot on and the boys hang normally too.

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Hmmm, I never considered the option of taking HCG; in fact it was never offered to me by my endocrinologist. I've heard that HCG can present it's own set of problems, so I never pursued it . . . but maybe I should? I'm quite happy with my TE and how it's working; maybe introducing HCG would open up another can of worms. On the other hand, the thought of having my boys back in all their glory has appeal . . .

Melody68 said:

Hmmm, I never considered the option of taking HCG; in fact it was never offered to me by my endocrinologist. I've heard that HCG can present it's own set of problems, so I never pursued it . . . but maybe I should? I'm quite happy with my TE and how it's working; maybe introducing HCG would open up another can of worms. On the other hand, the thought of having my boys back in all their glory has appeal . . .

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For me, the side effects of HCG have been minimal. I do have to follow it with a very small dose of Anastrazol to keep estrogen conversion under control. Other than that, it's worked well for me. The boys are normal size and hang like they should, libido is good...no complaints!

Melody68 said:

Hmmm, I never considered the option of taking HCG; in fact it was never offered to me by my endocrinologist. I've heard that HCG can present it's own set of problems, so I never pursued it . . . but maybe I should? I'm quite happy with my TE and how it's working; maybe introducing HCG would open up another can of worms. On the other hand, the thought of having my boys back in all their glory has appeal . . .

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It’s possible it would open up another can of worms, but could also improve life in some areas. I’ve included it as part of my protocol for years and thoroughly enjoy it. I’ve occasionally considered cycling off just to give my body a break, but never went through with it because I don’t want to mess up a good thing while I’m dialed in. Plus my body doesn’t seem to be getting desensitized, and I’m still getting all the benefits from my dose. I also use a smaller dose than most, only pinning 250 ius 3 times/week. That seems to be my sweet spot, though everyone is different. But if you do decide to try it I’d say start on the lower end and run that for at least four weeks before evaluating results. Then you could adjust dosage or drop completely if you wanted.

Phil Goodman said:

It’s possible it would open up another can of worms, but could also improve life in some areas. I’ve included it as part of my protocol for years and thoroughly enjoy it. I’ve occasionally considered cycling off just to give my body a break, but never went through with it because I don’t want to mess up a good thing while I’m dialed in. Plus my body doesn’t seem to be getting desensitized, and I’m still getting all the benefits from my dose. I also use a smaller dose than most, only pinning 250 ius 3 times/week. That seems to be my sweet spot, though everyone is different. But if you do decide to try it I’d say start on the lower end and run that for at least four weeks before evaluating results. Then you could adjust dosage or drop completely if you wanted.

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Phil, I don't mean to derail the original topic of this thread, my apologies. However I'm intrigued by your and Vacationman's comments on HCG. Being 69 years old, I don't care about fertility; if that's the case then can you tell me if there's any other benefits to HCG besides preventing the testicular atrophy? If that was the only benefit, then it would seem a little pretentious to act on it . . .

Melody68 said:

While I would never have mentioned it otherwise, the nature of this email addresses one negative aspect of my T therapy that I've noticed. Having been on TE for a year, most results are positive, but one thing that I don't like is that my scrotum is pulled much tighter to my body (like when I was a kid) than it was pre T. Yes, it's quite vain to mention it, but in front of my wife I'd rather have some swinging nuts the way it used to be.

Does anybody have that result from T use, or know why this happens? I might not be averse to trying some of those silicone bands if they would help, but isn't there a danger of cutting off the blood supply to your testicles?

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@Nelson Vergel talked about it in one of his videos. For few men it can even go so far that the testicles are pulled inside (painfully). He said that HCG helps.

I have no idea why it happens to few men. It's not the norm. Maybe it's related to DHT. DHT gel before the big show?
@Phil Goodman approach sounds on point.

I never had the big hang and prefer to have things tight to my body. That probably relates to boxer or briefs preferences. I don't think that things got tighter for me since TRT.

Seagal said:

@Nelson Vergel talked about it in one of his videos. For few men it can even go so far that the testicles are pulled inside. He said that HCG helps.

I have no idea why it happens to few men. It's not the norm.

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Well that sounds terrible; thankfully I don't have that problem.

I've been on TE (and nothing else) about a year and the two physical things I note about my genitalia is that the testicles are marginally smaller and that they are pulled tighter to my body. I'm not crazy about either aspect; thus far I can live with it . . . but I wouldn't like it to get any worse. Does anyone know how long these effects continue, ie is the worst behind me, or does the process of shrinkage continue into the second year, and even longer (shudder)?

Melody68 said:

Well that sounds terrible; thankfully I don't have that problem.

I've been on TE (and nothing else) about a year and the two physical things I note about my genitalia is that the testicles are marginally smaller and that they are pulled tighter to my body. I'm not crazy about either aspect; thus far I can live with it . . . but I wouldn't like it to get any worse. Does anyone know how long these effects continue, ie is the worst behind me, or does the process of shrinkage continue into the second year, and even longer (shudder)?

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Have no answer to your question.
Hey, did you consider that the tighter appearance might look even better? Imo it looks more sporty...

Melody68 said:

Phil, I don't mean to derail the original topic of this thread, my apologies. However I'm intrigued by your and Vacationman's comments on HCG. Being 69 years old, I don't care about fertility; if that's the case then can you tell me if there's any other benefits to HCG besides preventing the testicular atrophy? If that was the only benefit, then it would seem a little pretentious to act on it . . .

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No worries, I’m all for shifting discussions to whatever topics are helpful for the members.

For me personally, I pretty much always planned to incorporate HCG into my protocol. I just wanted to get dialed in on test by itself before adding other variables. A big reason for me was to keep natural production going, as I figured it would make life a lot easier if I ever needed, wanted, or had to stop trt for whatever reason. The thought being that I wouldn’t have for my balls to come back online, I’d just need to get my FSH and LH. And obviously reversing the testicular atrophy was a good benefit. Plus after about 8 weeks or so on trt my orgasms seemed a little diminished. Libido and erections quality was always good, just kinda sucked that the orgasms weren’t as great as they had been prior to trt. HCG fixed all of those things. I started out at 500 ius twice/week before finally settling in my current protocol. It was a bit of a roller coaster at first, but I was also going through some pretty crazy things in my personal life so I can’t really tell how much of that roller coaster was due to HCG and how much was from external factors. Either way I’m settled in now and really feel like I have a well-rounded protocol of trt, HCG, and DHEA (relatively low dose for all three).


If you have any other questions feel free to ask away

Phil Goodman said:

No worries, I’m all for shifting discussions to whatever topics are helpful for the members.

For me personally, I pretty much always planned to incorporate HCG into my protocol. I just wanted to get dialed in on test by itself before adding other variables. A big reason for me was to keep natural production going, as I figured it would make life a lot easier if I ever needed, wanted, or had to stop trt for whatever reason. The thought being that I wouldn’t have for my balls to come back online, I’d just need to get my FSH and LH. And obviously reversing the testicular atrophy was a good benefit. Plus after about 8 weeks or so on trt my orgasms seemed a little diminished. Libido and erections quality was always good, just kinda sucked that the orgasms weren’t as great as they had been prior to trt. HCG fixed all of those things. I started out at 500 ius twice/week before finally settling in my current protocol. It was a bit of a roller coaster at first, but I was also going through some pretty crazy things in my personal life so I can’t really tell how much of that roller coaster was due to HCG and how much was from external factors. Either way I’m settled in now and really feel like I have a well-rounded protocol of trt, HCG, and DHEA (relatively low dose for all three).


If you have any other questions feel free to ask away

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Your reasoning makes sense. I find now that I'm near the 1 year anniversary of starting T, that I'm thinking of many factors.

I like the T; it's much improved my body profile. I'm 6'3 and before T weighed 245-250 and now weigh a more muscular 215. I like biking, and it seems that I can ride my bike forever, and slowing down on hills is a thing of the past. I can't say that I've felt any other benefits, but the physical improvement alone makes it worth it to me.

But, coming from a somewhat survivalist mentality, I'm a little uncomfortable with the fact that my well being is tied to an exterior source - to the belief and hope that T will always be available. What if, for whatever reason, T suddenly wasn't available, and I had atrophied testicles that were no longer able to bounce back? It's not too much of a stretch to consider - in the single year that I've taken T Enanthate, there's been a shortage of the product twice.

If I kept my balls alive through HCG supplementation, then I'd at least have something to fall back on should the sh-t hit the fan . . . hmmmm.

Melody68 said:

Your reasoning makes sense. I find now that I'm near the 1 year anniversary of starting T, that I'm thinking of many factors.

I like the T; it's much improved my body profile. I'm 6'3 and before T weighed 245-250 and now weigh a more muscular 215. I like biking, and it seems that I can ride my bike forever, and slowing down on hills is a thing of the past. I can't say that I've felt any other benefits, but the physical improvement alone makes it worth it to me.

But, coming from a somewhat survivalist mentality, I'm a little uncomfortable with the fact that my well being is tied to an exterior source - to the belief and hope that T will always be available. What if, for whatever reason, T suddenly wasn't available, and I had atrophied testicles that were no longer able to bounce back? It's not too much of a stretch to consider - in the single year that I've taken T Enanthate, there's been a shortage of the product twice.

If I kept my balls alive through HCG supplementation, then I'd at least have something to fall back on should the sh-t hit the fan . . . hmmmm.

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Yep, that was a big part of my reasoning. Especially since I started in 2021(and we all remember how crazy 2020 was). That’s also why I recommend that people build up an emergency supply over time. If you did add HCG to your protocol you could likely lower your testosterone dosage, which would allow you to slowly accumulate a backup supply of your medications so you would be covered if there were any disruptions in your ability to get your medicine. And again I’d imagine it would be easier to get back to a natural state if your testicles were fully producing if you had to stop try for whatever reason.

I have few vial of HCG in my freezer. Used it 3yrs ago but stopped and the leftover is in the freezer.

@Melody68 we are dependent on more things than seem obvious. You can survive without T. Imagine you need insulin etc. If you can, prepare for the worst, then relax

Seagal said:

I have few vial of HCG in my freezer. Used it 3yrs ago but stopped and the leftover is in the freezer.

@Melody68 we are dependent on more things than seem obvious. You can survive without T. Imagine you need insulin etc. If you can, prepare for the worst, then relax

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Can you survive without T though, if your own production has shut down and you can't access exogenous T? And if you can survive, what kind of "man" would you be?

I know that most people reading this would suggest that failing to have an adequate T supply available for purchase is entertaining the realm of the unlikely to the impossible. Before my father passed away, a decade or so ago, he was asking me about investment term deposits and the safety of the dollar. I laughed, suggesting that the dollar, of course, was as "good as gold" and could never fail. To which HE laughed, and told me that growing up in Germany, he and the rest of the people TWICE lost all their cash savings, which proved completely worthless in 1923 and 1945. This was in Germany, not some third world country; Germany prior to WW2 was considered by many as the most advanced and industrialized nation in the world. He told me if it could happen there, then it could happen anywhere . . . and that nothing man-made is a given. (NB - he then went on to buy gold instead of the term deposit, which I still hold, ha!).

Is it difficult to access HCG in Canada? Would my GP prescribe it for me?

Melody68 said:

Can you survive without T though, if your own production has shut down and you can't access exogenous T? And if you can survive, what kind of "man" would you be?

I know that most people reading this would suggest that failing to have an adequate T supply available for purchase is entertaining the realm of the unlikely to the impossible. Before my father passed away, a decade or so ago, he was asking me about investment term deposits and the safety of the dollar. I laughed, suggesting that the dollar, of course, was as "good as gold" and could never fail. To which HE laughed, and told me that growing up in Germany, he and the rest of the people TWICE lost all their cash savings, which proved completely worthless in 1923 and 1945. This was in Germany, not some third world country; Germany prior to WW2 was considered by many as the most advanced and industrialized nation in the world. He told me if it could happen there, then it could happen anywhere . . . and that nothing man-made is a given. (NB - he then went on to buy gold instead of the term deposit, which I still hold, ha!).

Is it difficult to access HCG in Canada? Would my GP prescribe it for me?

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I'm German I can relate
The EU wants its people to store canned food, water etc for few days....the Russians are coming.... hysteria made by mad politicians.

You can survive without TRT, not pleasant but water and food is more important

You should ask @madman regarding Canadian affairs