Hi everyone. I need help understanding and understanding some things said in this discussion. I hope for your kind help. I have been on TRT following the forum instructions for a year now. I do 120 ml of Testosterone henanthate divided into three weekly starts. I supplement hcg 250 iu two/three times a week. I have erectile dysfunction problems that I control with Cialis and Viagra. What is really missing, however, is sexual stimulation. I read about the DHT cream I got from Russian star peptide. A complete failure. From your suggestion, I'm waiting for the one ordered from Alphagels to arrive. Let me get to the point: to have more libido is it better to use testosterone propionate for TRT? Furthermore, I read that by spreading testosterone on the testicles, this is partly converted into DHT. It is true? can I try a mixture of henanthate and DMSO? Thanks for your patience!!
DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost
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It seems to help in some cases, likely due to increased variation in serum testosterone. However, short-lived honeymoon periods are also common.
Yes and no. Testosterone applied to the scrotum does efficiently convert to DHT. However, this does not apply to testosterone enanthate. The reason why is that the testosterone must be separated from the enanthate ester before conversion to DHT can occur. This separation process occurs mainly in the bloodstream, meaning you lose the benefit of exposure to the scrotal skin.
Thanks for the clarifications. They are very useful
Are you taking testosterone as well? If so, in what form and what frequency?
From what I've heard about Australian customs, he is putting himself at big risk going to the post office to send internationally. If they were to open and test one his bottles he would be in big trouble.
t_spacemonkey
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is alpha gels coming from australia? yeah i've heard that place is rough when it comes to AAS
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golfjunkie
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I placed an order with alpha a few days ago. They emailed quickly until I sent payment but now haven't heard anything back after sending payment on the 28th. I know it's holidays just checking to see if this is to be expected from alpha? In the past I have ordered some online peds and this was normal.
Yeah, that's normal. About a week or so after I ordered I got tracking info. It took about 3 weeks to get on east coast US.
golfjunkie
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Thanks stigma.
WhatSayYou89
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I feel this very much.
I get so mentally flat I cant feel anything on long ester test. But it helps with depression and give me some energy.
Test prop/no ester helps some but headaches and pinning daily are not worth it. However, something about cream actually wakes my brain up, where I can feel somewhat alive.
If you look back at my post history I thought I finally figured everything out with the test cream but it was short lived. Probably could have tested more but had to much stuff going on in life at that moment to truly be going through a major trial & error phase with how I felt.
Have tried proviron, masteron & primobolan in the past that raise dht but never truly felt anything so maybe if I try dht in a cream the results may differ since my body seems to prefer that method.
Have you ever tried Pregnenolone?
The one thing that changes everything for me is neurosteroids. Pregnenolone especially makes TRT work better than anything else, but I know I'm extremely deficient because I've seen a drop of 60% in DHEA-S levels after starting TRT, and that over a few dozen lab results.
I feel better on cream than on any other formulation/ester of Test, but there's still something missing. Pregnenolone gives me back enthusiasm for life and a sense of adventure and excitement for the future that TRT completely takes away.
It also antagonizes E2 for me, presumably through conversion to Progesterone, which antagonizes E2 at the receptor level. I immediately start shedding water and getting much leaner. Progesterone also inhibits 5-ar enzymes and my theory at this point is that higher levels of it end up begin/feeling feminizing because the 5-ar inhibition effects overtake the E2 antagonism.
But at lower dosages Progesterone feels actually very masculinizing to me. Interestingly, while I anticipated feeling better from topical than oral Pregnenolone (because topical formulations of hormones will undergo in general a conversion to more androgenic downstream metabolites through increased 5-ar density in the skin (especially scrotal skin, but not only)), I do feel better on oral micronized (and specifically slow release) Pregnenolone, again I hypothesize because of increased conversion to Progesterone.
Topical DHEA does make me feel better however, while oral bloats me and increases E2 too much, so I would stay away from it personally.
If you've never tried, I highly recommend trying scrotal Test cream with a small dose of oral Pregnenolone. Just make sure you get it pharma compounded; the stuff you get OTC is not the same. I remember Dr. Saya mentioning in a thread here on EM that OTC stuff is significantly less strong than what you get from compounded pharma.
For me, even 5mg/day compounded pharma Preg makes a huge difference.
WhatSayYou89
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Yeah I’ve tried pregnenolone.
Took it daily at night for awhile to help me sleep. I felt very different every day with it.
Day 1 would feel good, like day 2 felt emotional, hot flashes and just all over the place feeling even on a very low dose of 5mg per day.
I do feel that alot of this ‘off feeling’ is related to neurosteroids or lack there of.
Maybe I’ll try a more 2 or three times a week dosing with it instead of daily.
Absorption rate for cream was all over the place for me. Last time I was on it, I think it came back under 200 with a high amount.
At this point I'm using ugl stuff. Doing injections atm.
However I did just pickup test cream from my ugl vendor but it was test enthanate cream, not test no ester (they were out of it).
I did just order some of the dht gel as well from the alphagel vendor listed in this thread. Wont have it for atleast a month from what I've heard. So I’ll mess around with preg and test cream some until it gets here.
Took it daily at night for awhile to help me sleep. I felt very different every day with it.
Day 1 would feel good, like day 2 felt emotional, hot flashes and just all over the place feeling even on a very low dose of 5mg per day.
I do feel that alot of this ‘off feeling’ is related to neurosteroids or lack there of.
Maybe I’ll try a more 2 or three times a week dosing with it instead of daily.
Absorption rate for cream was all over the place for me. Last time I was on it, I think it came back under 200 with a high amount.
At this point I'm using ugl stuff. Doing injections atm.
However I did just pickup test cream from my ugl vendor but it was test enthanate cream, not test no ester (they were out of it).
I did just order some of the dht gel as well from the alphagel vendor listed in this thread. Wont have it for atleast a month from what I've heard. So I’ll mess around with preg and test cream some until it gets here.
Does the bottle have a label on it?
Is there any documentation that comes with it, stating what it is?
So are you taking just 25mg of transdermal DHEA per day?
What part of the body are you applying it to?
So did you specifically notice the strength boost in the gym after you started taking the DHT gel?
No, there is no way to tell what it really is by anything on or in the packaging/bottle.
Yes. Massive. Kind of scary. I had to stop pushing my bench press just to make sure my bones and joints have time to get stronger. I went from forcing 1 rep of 225 to being able to do 10 reps 225 or 4 reps 245 clean and under full control. Took maybe 6 weeks.
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