Why TRT are ruining my libido? Need help

[literally.me]

Hi, my name is Juan 35yo (M).

I don't know if anybody can relate to me and my problem but everything started around 8 months ago when suddently, after three years on testosterone replacement, I lost my libido. It did never happened for three years till it happened.

So for 8 months I've been seaeching and trying diffent protocols I saw on forums like:

. High TRT dose (200mg week).
. Daily cypionate microdosed.
. Now I am trying propionate microdosed but...still nothing is working downstairs.

It is even more strange that I got so frustaed some times that if I did not inject for a week, for example, I can feel my libido coming back again but as soon as I inject testosterone my (organ) became unanimated again.

In the past after injections I had some euphorya and libido going up. Now its the oposite. What is happening to me?

 

[Systemlord]

I can feel my libido coming back again but as soon as I inject testosterone my (organ) became unanimated again.

What is happening to me?

Welcome to ExcelMale @literally.me.

This is more common than you know, your original dosage, levels may have been too high and now this is the result. Men on cycles running very high hormone levels report similar experiences.

Another possibility, ferritin testing should be performed before and after starting TRT, because TRT can significantly lower it, maybe not at first but months or years down the road. When you inject T, T peaks and uses up iron in the process.

 

[literally.me]

Hi @Systemlord , thanks for talking to me.

I've been watching this forum for a while and already saw your posts about ferritin too. Checked it and sadly this is not my problem. Thyroid not too. And my SHBG is around ~17 but it never were high since beggning and I'm trying propionate protocol for that "natural daily variation" (I didnt tried oral testosterone or gels still). and still not working.


BUT look at my experience...

I didnt injected anything for more than a week and started to feel my libido coming back. Last days I was able to masturbated couple of times per day. Two hours ago I injected 10mg o propionate and tried to masturbate again just to prove my suspicious. My penis are unable to became erect and my libidobis now vanished. It's like a switch off button. So it's definetely the testosterone fault.

Does it makes sense?

 

[Systemlord]

So it's definetely the testosterone fault.

If was testosterone’s fault, everyone would have this problem. If someone couldn’t handle high testosterone anymore, which is probably why it’s naturally low in the first place, the body may have trouble functioning normally on TRT.

Do you know the reason for your low testosterone?

What is your blood pressure?

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Hi @Systemlord , thanks for talking to me.

I've been watching this forum for a while and already saw your posts about ferritin too. Checked it and sadly this is not my problem. Thyroid not too. And my SHBG is around ~17 but it never were high since beggning and I'm trying propionate protocol for that "natural daily variation" (I didnt tried oral testosterone or gels still). and still not working.


BUT look at my experience...

I didnt injected anything for more than a week and started to feel my libido coming back. Last days I was able to masturbated couple of times per day. Two hours ago I injected 10mg o propionate and tried to masturbate again just to prove my suspicious. My penis are unable to became erect and my libidobis now vanished. It's like a switch off button. So it's definetely the testosterone fault.

Does it makes sense?

It sounds to me like something you are losing with the HPTA shutdown is taking libido with it, and libido returns when the HPTA starts coming back online. Did you ever try adding hCG to see what effect that has on your libido?

 

[Hyrulewarrior1978]

Hi @Systemlord , thanks for talking to me.

I've been watching this forum for a while and already saw your posts about ferritin too. Checked it and sadly this is not my problem. Thyroid not too. And my SHBG is around ~17 but it never were high since beggning and I'm trying propionate protocol for that "natural daily variation" (I didnt tried oral testosterone or gels still). and still not working.


BUT look at my experience...

I didnt injected anything for more than a week and started to feel my libido coming back. Last days I was able to masturbated couple of times per day. Two hours ago I injected 10mg o propionate and tried to masturbate again just to prove my suspicious. My penis are unable to became erect and my libidobis now vanished. It's like a switch off button. So it's definetely the testosterone fault.

Does it makes sense?

Try spacing out your injections more with cypionate or lower your dose.

 

[literally.me]

@Systemlord my testosterone was around 400 when I started to play with testosterone and stayed on TRT for mainatante because everything was good. Problem is; if my body just functionated better with low testosterone why even at 200mg/week in the past, going to 1000's+ worked well and now don't? It's like a estrogen problem. I don't know because it is not considerated elevated in the labs scale. I never got past 50's estrogen. I also tryed to use Arimidex and it helps. But how many time can I stay in this ups and downs injecting, having ed, then using Arimidex, then going off, then statting again, etc.. it's not like a good template of protocol, agreed?

 

[literally.me]

It sounds to me like something you are losing with the HPTA shutdown is taking libido with it, and libido returns when the HPTA starts coming back online. Did you ever try adding hCG to see what effect that has on your libido?

No, never used HCG. And I am starting to believe in this theory too. Some type of hormones goes down when I inject testosterone (like progesterone?) or it's the estrogen going up (not really up because I inject so little that it can even reach 20-30's e2). Arimidex does help. I poop one and my libido come back in hours. I did that yesterday to prove it. I woke up now with desire.

I just don't understand why, after three years, it started to happen. In all TRT forums they say to inject testosterone, let estrogen rise, don't take AI's and it will work. My situation is going the oposite direction.

 

[literally.me]

Try spacing out your injections more with cypionate or lower your dose.

In my post I said I already tryed it. As low as 50mg as high as 200mg per week shot once to twice a week. I am now on daily Propionate protocol, 10mg per day. After I inject my (organ) goes numb again and I lost my libido. But if I pop an arimidex and/or spend days without injecting my libido comes back.

It's like a switch off button to my libido that I don't understand. It is believed that testosterone is the male hormone, will gave us power, libido and et, but after three years I am going the oposite direction and trying to understand.

 

[Systemlord]

200mg/week in the past, going to 1000's+ worked well and now don't?

Running abnormally high levels caught up with you. It all depends on your bodies tolerance level, a higher tolerance means it will take longer for the rubber band to snap back.

It may very well be you got greedy with your dosage, and have been operating outside of what’s normal for you and this is the consequence.

Many would agree that 200 mg weekly for a daily protocol is a bit much for TRT, but you’re not on TRT, you’re on a cycle.

 

[literally.me]

Running abnormally high levels caught up with you. It all depends on your bodies tolerance level, a higher tolerance means it will take longer for the rubber band to snap back.

It may very well be you got greedy with your dosage, and have been operating outside of what’s normal for you and this is the consequence.

Many would agree that 200 mg weekly for a daily protocol is a bit much for TRT, but you’re not on TRT, you’re on a cycle.

I think you did not understand me well. I am not on a cycle. I've tried to up till 200mg per week to see if I need more testosterone to function as they say in forums. Didn't work, I droped the dosage again. Then I was trying 10mg per day. It's 70mg per week. No cycle. I don't want to blast, became bodybuilder or anything. Just worried about libido.

Understand now?

 

[Systemlord]

I think you did not understand me well. I am not on a cycle. I've tried to up till 200mg per week to see if I need more testosterone to function as they say in forums. Didn't work, I droped the dosage again. Then I was trying 10mg per day. It's 70mg per week. No cycle. I don't want to blast, became bodybuilder or anything. Just worried about libido.

Understand now?

I misunderstood, I thought you started having trouble at 200 mg per week, and after 3 years decided to lower the dosage.

 

[3DMission]

Hi, my name is Juan 35yo (M).

I don't know if anybody can relate to me and my problem but everything started around 8 months ago when suddently, after three years on testosterone replacement, I lost my libido. It did never happened for three years till it happened.

So for 8 months I've been seaeching and trying diffent protocols I saw on forums like:

. High TRT dose (200mg week).
. Daily cypionate microdosed.
. Now I am trying propionate microdosed but...still nothing is working downstairs.

It is even more strange that I got so frustaed some times that if I did not inject for a week, for example, I can feel my libido coming back again but as soon as I inject testosterone my (organ) became unanimated again.

In the past after injections I had some euphorya and libido going up. Now its the oposite. What is happening to me?

Hi Juan,

Here are 20 tips for success:

1) lower T doses, @Systemlord is right, less is more. I’m down to 6 units daily on a 29g .5ml 1/2” insulin syringe.

2) start HCG, I’m a huge fan of HCG for overall feeling of wellness, libido, and to prevent testicular atrophy. I do 400IU’s on M/W/F with a 30g 5/16” syringe. Be sure to do minimal dilution on the HCG, I do 3ml water to 12,000IU’s.

3) eliminate all processed & unhealthy foods from diet, this includes additives, food dyes, high sugar foods like candy, sweets, etc, eliminate high fructose corn syrup, do lower carb meals, stick to carb sources like sweet potatoes, rice, veggie pasta, etc. No fast food, if you need something quick, get hard boiled eggs from gas station, fruit, grilled chicken or salad.

4) don’t forget about drinks, just drink water. Why anything else? If you need flavor go for coffee or tea, but don’t load it with sugar or artificial junk. There’s plenty of natural sparking energy drinks out there with no high fructose corn syrup, find those if you must, but no Red Bull or Monster or sugary coffee drinks.

5) just eat real foods like beef, chicken, salmon, salad, veggies, fruit, etc.

6) lose any excess body fat. Diet recommendations above will help with that. It’s a slow process, but it’s worth it.

7) eliminate all harmful chemicals you’re putting on your body and switch to natural alternatives. This means switching everything that touches your body, from toothpaste to deodorant fo lotion to body wash to shampoo/conditioner, to cologne, to hair gel, to hand soap, to dishwashing detergent to laundry soap, etc. You see just how many chemicals you use on a daily basis!

8) use an app like Yuka to help you scan food items to make healthy choices. It’s free. So many foods are loaded with crap, items you would never think. Scan them with this app and you’ll see just how toxic they are for your system, yes especially your reproductive &’endocrine system!!!

9) eliminate unnatural fragrances, no candles, glade plug ins, cologne, air freshener spray, car air fresheners, etc. Get natural stuff like essential oils if you need smell goods.

10) have a solid strength training regimen, pushing yourself to new levels each time, following disciplined rest intervals, and switching it up to avoid become stagnant. This means no puttering through workouts, lol.

11). Absolutely no pornography. I cannot stress this enough. There’s no wiggle room here (pun intended) it’s a libido killer and many other negative side effects. Masterbation is not needed either.

12) make sure you’re getting good sleep, you don’t need ZMA daily. Take 50mg zinc every couple days before bed, after a decent meal. Magnesium is good to add in too.

13) good libido supplements - Maca Root, Ashwahanda, Tribulus, and Ginseng.

14) other good whole health supplements - creatine, vitamin D, LIQUID vitamin B12, vitamin C, etc.

15) evaluate any pre workouts you’re taking. Most of these directly impact my libido in a negative way big time. Try to find a natural one or none at all or just caffeine.

16) eliminate toxins from your food/beverage contacts. This means no plastics, no cheap plastic water bottles, no plates with toxic coatings, no Teflon non stick cooking pans, etc. Use stainless steel & glass, BPA free plastic if you must.

17) definitely no AI’s, if you took an AI within the last 3-6 months or even longer if you took steadily, then you may still be dealing with the loss of libido from these. AI’s were detrimental for me. If you did take these, start taking B6.

18) nurture your spiritual life, take time to mediate on the Scriptures to help you find peace and purpose in your life. This is good time to relax, reflect, and respond. Truth is you’re likely not going to find this in church, it comes from a personal relationship with our Creator.

19) evaluate your EMF exposure and remedy appropriately.

20) don’t forget #11.

That’s about all I can think of off the top of my head. If you want your body to function like a machine you’ve got to treat it like one. That means high maintenance and clean fuel. Take care of yourself. You’re wanting to feel like you’re 18 again, but truth is we’re getting older and we’ve been exposed to toxic chemicals and poor diets our entire lives. Everything is stacked against us, you must go to the extreme to counteract all the damage and attacks against us.

To accomplish many of the steps above, it means a total life change. It means a serious turnaround in your life, a this is it moment, a crisis of belief, a time to step up or a time to back down decision.

If you’re ready, you’re not alone, you’re welcome to PM me anytime for encouragement. If you’re just looking for a quick fix…buena suerte.