I stand by what I said and apologize if someone’s offended. If you can run 1500ng or higher and all is well, so be it. If you’re having to donate blood, have high blood pressure, severe acne and taking a plethora of drugs to counteract the side effects, that isn’t healthy. I can’t see how any rational person could think such. I’ve seen so many men over the years start out on high doses, feel like shit, back down the dose and start to feel better. I’m by no means stating absolutes and realize we’re all different. I’ve seen guys over the years push their HDL levels into the low 30s by using high doses. We as men on trt should always advocate caution and sensibility especially when newer guys come on here asking advice. I make no apology for expressing caution and anyone taking any medication should do so with caution. Mad man you’ve instilled in me more than ever that higher levels aren’t needed, especially by enlightening us on the tru t calculator. I have shbg of 70 which is high and even at 1000ng I’m at the top of the range using the tru t calculator. No matter what endeavor one takes in life, safety should be first and foremost.