Testosterone propionate supposedly the best ester?

[RotnGun]

I thought I would share an interesting video I found on youtube. This guy seems to think that testosterone propionate is the best choice for TRT. His whole youtube channel is actually interesting

 

[RotnGun]

Here he claims that testosterone propionate is best for libido. Any thoughts

 

[BadassBlues]

The propionate ester is relatively short lived compared to cypionate and others. The half life is around 20-24 hours. In theory, I would assume it to peak at a higher rate and deliver a stronger initial surge of T levels, then it would taper off at a faster rate as well. That might result in a libido bump for some guys, but I don't see it as a magic bullet for everyone.

YouTubers have to create unusual content to get subscribers. Caveat Emtor...

The only way to know is to try it... I hear it stings like Hell.

 

[DS3]

My DHT is much higher on Test Prop and in many ways, including cognitive clarity/performance and well-being, I feel better on this ester.

 

[granger]

makes sense as more "natural" our bodies arent meant to have 700 test levels 24/7. ups and downs are part of morning wood and having better sex in the AM. many people on TRT actually have increase issues with ED likely for the reason of hitting unnatural test levels that does not wain.

curious if guys do just as well on gel as similar kinetic. (if decent absorbers)

 

[BadassBlues]

makes sense as more "natural" our bodies arent meant to have 700 test levels 24/7. ups and downs are part of morning wood and having better sex in the AM. many people on TRT actually have increase issues with ED likely for the reason of hitting unnatural test levels that does not wain.

curious if guys do just as well on gel as similar kinetic. (if decent absorbers)

Good observation and a great point. Dr. Crisler used to illustrate the natural rise and fall of testosterone and compare it to various protocols. He was a proponent of gel in that it mimicked the natural ebb and flow. Alas, some of us just don't do well on gel... myself included.

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

The best ester is the one that you do best with. I've tried prop many times (no PIP) and I just seem to do a bit better with Cypionate. Theories are fine as a way to develop hypotheses about what might work, but only experimentation and refinement will tell you what works for you.

I do think that prop is best to start with since getting to a steady state is much easier and an overshoot is resolved faster, but that is just to start.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

My DHT is much higher on Test Prop and in many ways, including cognitive clarity/performance and well-being, I feel better on this ester.

I've been on a solvent-free prop for a few weeks and agree with the sentiment - so far, better than everything else I've tried to date.

 

[madman]

I thought I would share an interesting video I found on youtube. This guy seems to think that testosterone propionate is the best choice for TRT. His whole youtube channel is actually interesting

Tread lightly on where you get your info!

There is no best ester, let alone formulation, dose, injection frequency, carrier oi, blah blah

Every protocol can have advantages/disadvantages.

Trial and error is the only way to know what truly works best for you.

 

[Seagal]

Thread 'T Propionate protocol' T Propionate protocol

 

[granger]

Alas, some of us just don't do well on gel... myself included.

curious what you mean by "not do well"? many people say this about every modality and confuses me.. to many sides, no symptom relief, dont get blood result u want etc etc.

 

[BadassBlues]

curious what you mean by "not do well"? many people say this about every modality and confuses me.. to many sides, no symptom relief, dont get blood result u want etc etc.

I could only get my levels in the 500's on gel. My free T was not where I wanted it to be. Some guys don't absorb and metabolize gels very well.

 

[Pnw0031]

I've been on a solvent-free prop for a few weeks and agree with the sentiment - so far, better than everything else I've tried to date.

Solvent free as in BA free?

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Solvent free as in BA free?

Free of benzyl benzoate which constitutes 10-20% of typical formulas. Still has smaller (1-2%) amount of benzyl alcohol as preservative.

 

[Mr_Fusion]

I could only get my levels in the 500's on gel. My free T was not where I wanted it to be. Some guys don't absorb and metabolize gels very well.

The highest levels I could obtain using gel for nine months was 380. Made the switch three weeks ago to test prop daily injections and no longer feel like taking a bath with toaster...

 

[Pnw0031]

The highest levels I could obtain using gel for nine months was 380. Made the switch three weeks ago to test prop daily injections and no longer feel like taking a bath with toaster...

I tried doing cream with injections which got me to normal levels but I felt like a zombie with the dht lowering my e2 levels way too much. What’s your daily prop dose?

 

[Mr_Fusion]

Daily prop dose is 35mg and I am switching between subq and shallow IM using 29 guage 1/2" slin pin. I'm also dialing in injection time either first thing mornings or right before sleep to determine optimal protocol. The gel caused my hair to shed due to DHT levels which is no longer since starting the injections.

 

[BadassBlues]

The highest levels I could obtain using gel for nine months was 380. Made the switch three weeks ago to test prop daily injections and no longer feel like taking a bath with toaster...

LOL...Good thing you made the switch!

 

[BadassBlues]

Daily prop dose is 35mg and I am switching between subq and shallow IM using 29 guage 1/2" slin pin. I'm also dialing in injection time either first thing mornings or right before sleep to determine optimal protocol. The gel caused my hair to shed due to DHT levels which is no longer since starting the injections.

Does the Sub Q sting a bit? I have never tried Prop, I just ordered some.

 

[Gman86]

I've been on a solvent-free prop for a few weeks and agree with the sentiment - so far, better than everything else I've tried to date.

Where are u getting solvent free prop from? If u need to DM me, that’s fine obv