I was on for months, it was great!how long were you on scrotal only for ?
I was on for months, it was great!how long were you on scrotal only for ?
Oh, I’m bad. There’s no question about that. That said, in fairness, I did give cream a longer period of time. I was just pointing out that it was only a positive experience for about the first three weeks.your as bad as I am. I try to many things at once and don’t give things enough time.
The crash doesn’t make much sense to me for two reasons. Now I’m not if the scrotum is different on how fast I can “burn through “ it. Because doesn’t the skin act like a Depot for the testosterone to slowly be released ? So maybe you do go through it faster since scrotum is thinner ? However on 2 clicks to the thighs my levels were still 700 and free t 23 7-8 hours after application. Also for me personally. On injections my levels drop pretty fast even in 26 hours post injection. I do (m-w-f) I’ve never tested my true trough. But if I test 8hrs after injection 30mg on Friday my levels are 900. 26 hours after that same I’m down too 500. What would they be on Sunday. And I don’t get a “crash”.
Totally agree. I was on the cream for a long period of time, and couldn’t figure out how to make it work. Wouldn’t rule out giving it another try, but i’m just reflecting my experience.Too many variables for you, need to settle with one then add to your regime otherwise it becomes a cluster F.
Also, it does take 4-5 weeks for bloods to stabilize and feel good
Try it solo, see how it works, give it a solid 5 weeksTotally agree. I was on the cream for a long period of time, and couldn’t figure out how to make it work. Wouldn’t rule out giving it another try, but i’m just reflecting my experience.
When you spend years on these TRT forums, you learn new stuff along the way.Why do you say topical doesn't affect SHBG?
Based on what? Science says androgens lower SHBG. How it gets in your system is irrelevantBecause it doesn't.
Well, for Science why don't you compare SHBG levels on injections versus creams and get back to me.Based on what? Science says androgens lower SHBG. How it gets in your system is irrelevant
100mg am. 50mg pm. Subsequently tried much lower doses.Try it solo, see how it works, give it a solid 5 weeks
How much were you using? It's easy to overuse it
It's not the high DHT, I've added DHT to my injection protocol, doesn't come close
your not the first guy I talked to that tried legit dht with injections and couldn’t replicate the cream.
Like mentioned, i did injections and cream and still nowhere close to cream solo.It has to be that there is some difference between DHT that is made through conversion vs injections.
Jatenzo is in second place as far as DHT levels achieve on TRT and also higher Free T levels than topicals.Like mentioned, i did injections and cream and still nowhere close to cream solo.
If Tlando comes out with an extended release, once a day tablet, are you tempted?Ja
Jatenzo is in second place as far as DHT levels achieve on TRT and also higher Free T levels than topicals.
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Jatenzo is in second place as far as DHT levels achieve on TRT and also higher Free T levels than topicals.
If Tlando comes out with an extended release, once a day tablet, are you tempted?
No, because frequent dosing is why I respond to Jatenzo so well, and I think decreasing the frequency would take away benefits.If Tlando comes out with an extended release, once a day tablet, are you tempted?
in what regard are “ft levels higher then topicals” I can take my free t levels anywhere I want on injections or cream lol.Ja
Jatenzo is in second place as far as DHT levels achieve on TRT and also higher Free T levels than topicals.
66.7 ng/dL on cream:in what regard are “ft levels higher then topicals” I can take my free t levels anywhere I want on injections or cream lol.
can take my free t levels anywhere I want on injections
Ok well your capped out by how much cream you would actually have to put on lol. But I don’t really know what systemloard is getting at. My free t levels seem to follow my total t levels the same way on injections or cream. Only time they were different where when my shbg level were significantly different.66.7 ng/dL on cream: