Solvent-free propionate: finally a successful protocol for me!

[FunkOdyssey]

What time in the day do you feel your best and worst?

Feel best around mid-morning and worst mid-afternoon. I think this has more to do with circadian rhythms and coffee consumption than TRT though.

 

[Gman86]

Even at a very low concentration?

Ya in my question I told him that the person saying their prop had maybe 1% BB in it was using prop that was 50mg/ ml

Was there any pip when injecting it? Sounds like if there was truly 1% BB, it would hurt like a motha! That’s what I’m getting from his respond at least. But honestly sounds like it’s probably not even possible to brew test prop with that low of an amount of BB

 

[Forty2]

Feel best around mid-morning and worst mid-afternoon. I think this has more to do with circadian rhythms and coffee consumption than TRT though.

Ok but TRT in any form would screw up circadian rhythm, right?

 

[Willyt]

Update:

I had to unfortunately drop this protocol as it seems I slowly got more and more sensitive to the ethyl oleate that pharmacom puts in their propionate. I started getting itching spells, slowly worsening sleep, and other histamine intolerance symptoms again. And yet, they still were no where near as bad as how BB makes me feel

How did you find out that Pharmacom's prop (the 50 mg/ml version) includes ethyl oleate? I cannot find any ingredient list.

 

[Pnw0031]

How did you find out that Pharmacom's prop (the 50 mg/ml version) includes ethyl oleate? I cannot find any ingredient list.

Sorry I saw your DM and forgot to respond- came down with something and I’m feeling under the weather. On the bottles themselves and in their forum posts they mention ethyl oleate

 

[Forty2]

Feel best around mid-morning and worst mid-afternoon. I think this has more to do with circadian rhythms and coffee consumption than TRT though.

If you feel worst mid afternoon, do you think applying a small amount of trans-scrotal testosterone cream just before then would make you feel better? Test prop in the morning and test cream in the afternoon.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

If you feel worst mid afternoon, do you think applying a small amount of trans-scrotal testosterone cream just before then would make you feel better? Test prop in the morning and test cream in the afternoon.

No, because as I said before, I think this has more to do with normal circadian rhythms, and the fact that I drink coffee only in the morning and then it wears off somewhat.

Some cultures take a nap in the afternoon during this normal lull in energy when cortisol levels dip. Not every suboptimal aspect of the human experience needs to be medicated away.

 

[Pnw0031]

I’ve decided to start this protocol up again alongside my low histamine diet. It still felt the absolute best and most realistic to natural levels. I will keep note of any itching in the next couple weeks and will do more thorough testing overall. I will also be testing inflammation markers with concern of ethyl oleate. Still on the hunt for compounded prop without solvents.

 

[Willyt]

I’ve decided to start this protocol up again alongside my low histamine diet. It still felt the absolute best and most realistic to natural levels. I will keep note of any itching in the next couple weeks and will do more thorough testing overall. I will also be testing inflammation markers with concern of ethyl oleate. Still on the hunt for compounded prop without solvents.

Maybe drop the DHEA so you eliminate a variable. Let us know how it goes.

 

[Pnw0031]

Maybe drop the DHEA so you eliminate a variable. Let us know how it goes.

Maybe, only thing is I’ve been using it for so long I feel it’d cause the opposite effect

 

[Pnw0031]

Update: been back on the protocol for about a week and feeling better. Itching hasn’t been an issue, sleep hasn’t been the greatest but still working on that. I’m going to try to add a tiny bit of testosterone cream to protocol because of an odd side effect I got with it. For some reason compounded cream is the best sedative I’ve ever used. When I was on 4 pumps a day I’d often fall asleep at work despite a full 8 hours. Pretty embarrassing, but with this knowledge it can be leveraged. Dhea cream will also be switched to night because it doesn’t stimulate me and the lower cortisol might help.

 

[Willyt]

Update: been back on the protocol for about a week and feeling better. Itching hasn’t been an issue, sleep hasn’t been the greatest but still working on that. I’m going to try to add a tiny bit of testosterone cream to protocol because of an odd side effect I got with it. For some reason compounded cream is the best sedative I’ve ever used. When I was on 4 pumps a day I’d often fall asleep at work despite a full 8 hours. Pretty embarrassing, but with this knowledge it can be leveraged. Dhea cream will also be switched to night because it doesn’t stimulate me and the lower cortisol might help.

Anything for sleep! Glad to hear you are not experiencing the itching like before.

Thanks to you, I started the solvent-free TP last week. Too early to make any judgements yet.

I am using the TP to return to the blended protocol pioneered by @Cataceous using TE+TP ratio of 4:3. FYI, I am not actually blending the TP & TE in a sterile vial like I normally would because the solvent-free TP is so much thinner (and you need more of it due to the lower concentration). Instead, I am doing separate injections, which is made easier by fact that this TP draws so quickly. Almost like water.

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Thread 'Tips on how to blend propionate with enanthate (or cypionate)?'

May 26, 2021

I have been having some success with low dose daily propionate for the last several months. Dose levels have ranged from 8-10 mg injected every morning after waking. Overall, it has been a far better experience than my previous cypionate protocol of 80-100 per week (split every 3.5 days). Evidently, I am one of those guys who responds better to daily variation versus steady state (along with smaller, more frequent doses).

However, straight propionate hits hard and fast as you many of you know, resulting in a steep daily drop-off from peak to trough. I enjoy the energy it brings, but it...

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[Pnw0031]

Update: protocol is still doing well, I actually increased dose a little bit because I think I wasn’t aromatizing enough. I’m a lab verified low aromatizer. Up to 15 mg a day, feeling even better. I wonder if I was getting low estrogen at night and was getting low estrogen symptoms such as dry skin and itchiness. Physique is looking better, sleep is getting better slowly (also in the process of quitting Benadryl for sleep after using it for years). Low histamine diet is working well and is improving many aspects of life. Very high fiber, lots of veggies and tubers. Goal is also getting my ldl much lower. Also working on increasing nitric oxide, more beets. Getting full blood work this coming week.