Shallow IM to SubQ Switch - It is On!

psaufan · Jun 21, 2019

So, I had been doing shallow IM (25g x 5/8") into the upper arm for the last year or so. I cannot do this injection myself, for whatever reason...so, the wife had been doing it. I recently switched - using the same 25g x 5/8" needle to subq in the glute. When doing, I, or the wife, slightly pinches up the skin and does the injection. I also have 27g x 1/2" that I plan to use when traveling, as I sometimes cannot twist around to do the glute injection due to lower back issues...question about alternate injection sites below.

A couple of questions:

(1) I do my HCG injections in the "love handles", rotating sides. I do my subq Ipamorelin injections in my abdomen. So, for the subq test cyp injections...what are my options: glutes? thigh? other areas that might work? does one area tend to be a better site than the other in regards to absorption?

(2) I've been doing these subq injections now for right at two weeks and I feel like I'm in a trough...hard to get up in the morning and moody as heck. Is this part of a normal transition from IM to subq? Suggestions?

I've done some Google research and some people say they hit a trough but transitioned out after a few weeks due to the change in 'absorption rate'? I know the dangers of Google research, so I thought to ask everyone here.

Thoughts and insight...opinions and suggestions are appreciated!

Vince Carter · Jun 21, 2019

How you respond will determine what you like or prefer, if the change has negatively impacted you then you should revert back.

Nashtide · Jun 21, 2019

It’s so strange how a simple switch like this can cause issues. Our bodies will absorb the injected substance into the blood stream either way. I just don’t understand how it could make that much of a difference for someone who has been on T for awhile?!?

Rabbit91476 · Jun 21, 2019

i switched from im to sq about 3 weeks ago when I upped my dose from 100mg to 124mg.. I feelt like crap on week two for a few days then back to normal. don't think I have fully felt the difference of yet other than that the initial boost from im i don't seem to get from sq. but then it could all be mental

Vince Carter · Jun 21, 2019

When I settled on 16mg/D I was shooting SQ in the upper thigh or belly and my FT was right about the max lab range in trough, but when I switched to my delts I've consistently gotten much higher numbers TT/FT. I get such better absorption in the delts. Its just a numbers thing though I don't really feel anything better, or worse between the two, per se.

Cataceous · Jun 21, 2019

In theory, when going from IM to subQ you will see a transient dip in levels. This is due to the longer half-life of subQ versus IM.

Deleted member 16042 · Jun 21, 2019

There are many subQ injections sites. I use skin over glutes and flanks below the belt line, love handles and around the umbilicus. I also tried over quads but experienced more bleeders. Apparently I have more capillaries/venules near the surface over my thighs.

YMMV

Vtail · Jun 21, 2019

I have elected to alternate between the IM into the delts and SubQ into the belly. I figure it will smooth out the pros/cons of whichever method ultimately turns out to be better or worse. On paper my numbers are good, and subjectively I feel no different.

Vince · Jun 21, 2019

I'm a shallow IM guy. I tried Sub-Q for a short time and never liked it. I rotate my shoulders and VG, I even inject my HCG that way.

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psaufan · Jun 21, 2019

I am unable to inject on my own into my shoulders...something about crossing my arm over my chest tightens up the shoulder I am injecting into and it will spasm and that hurts like heck.