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That's good if the pen is single shot, but at least in my country the ovitrelle pen has 25 clicks, around 260iu per click, so you could just use the pen for dispensing into your t-injection. Do you inject IM or subq?In case it helps anybody:
For European folks working with ampules and Ovitrelle, the most convenient way to inject HCG is to do what I have done for 5 years with excellent results, simply combine the HCG shot into the T shot (credit to Nelson for the original idea when I started TRT) by adding 1-2 drops from the HCG in Ovitrelle into the T shot syringe (the one you actually inject for a single time). This is best accomplished moving the contents of the original single-shot Ovitrelle syringe into an insulin syringe that shows you the milliliter amounts, and keeping that in the fridge.
Advantages:
1. No need to mix with bacteriostatic water
2. No extra holes / shots [ i.e. inject T + HCG together ]
3. No risk of infection due to re-use of the same syringe to inject yourself multiple times (wtf, don't re-use syringes!)
4. By far the absolute simplest way without unnecessary work
How I do it:
1. Put all the contents of the (useless, single-shot) Ovitrelle syringe into an insulin syringe, now you have a useful HCG syringe with marks (if not, get a better insulin syringe that shows you the amount)
2. Keep that HCG insulin syringe in the fridge [ from my reading, this is safe/effective for up to 60-90 days, I never had a problem ]. NOTE: I don't know if this makes a difference, but I also protect this syringe from light inside the fridge.
3. At T shot time: Put a few drops from the HCG syringe in the fridge into your T shot syringe
4. When you inject your T, you get HCG too, in the same shot & hole -why poke more holes than needed?
NOTE: I preload ~3 months of T shots at a time, but only take the HCG out of the fridge to add the drops at the time of the shot, obviously
NOTE 2: When traveling, I don't use HCG as it requires refrigeration, instead just travel with T ampules + inject as needed.
re how to figure out the dose, this is the math I am rolling with:
6500 IUs -> 0.50ml (Full contents of an Ovitrelle syringe)
650 IUs -> 0.05ml
520 IUs -> 0.04ml
390 IUs -> 0.03ml
I answered this question a long time ago, there are a few more details there:
HCG discontinued (NOT) in the UK. Now what?
I've read this forum from time to time over the years, but this is my first time posting here. I'd value your thoughts on my little problem. I have secondary hypo and my baseline testosterone was last measured at a whopping 239 ng/dl!!! Cut a long story short, everything else is in good order...
Interesting!
. I thought Ovitrelle is good at room temperature unless it has been mixed with bacteriostatic water, in which case it does need refrigeration.In case it helps anybody:
For European folks working with ampules and Ovitrelle, the most convenient way to inject HCG is to do what I have done for 5 years with excellent results, simply combine the HCG shot into the T shot (credit to Nelson for the original idea when I started TRT) by adding 1-2 drops from the HCG in Ovitrelle into the T shot syringe (the one you actually inject for a single time). This is best accomplished moving the contents of the original single-shot Ovitrelle syringe into an insulin syringe that shows you the milliliter amounts, and keeping that in the fridge.
Advantages:
1. No need to mix with bacteriostatic water
2. No extra holes / shots [ i.e. inject T + HCG together ]
3. No risk of infection due to re-use of the same syringe to inject yourself multiple times (wtf, don't re-use syringes!)
4. By far the absolute simplest way without unnecessary work
How I do it:
1. Put all the contents of the (useless, single-shot) Ovitrelle syringe into an insulin syringe, now you have a useful HCG syringe with marks (if not, get a better insulin syringe that shows you the amount)
2. Keep that HCG insulin syringe in the fridge [ from my reading, this is safe/effective for up to 60-90 days, I never had a problem ]. NOTE: I don't know if this makes a difference, but I also protect this syringe from light inside the fridge.
3. At T shot time: Put a few drops from the HCG syringe in the fridge into your T shot syringe
4. When you inject your T, you get HCG too, in the same shot & hole -why poke more holes than needed?
NOTE: I preload ~3 months of T shots at a time, but only take the HCG out of the fridge to add the drops at the time of the shot, obviously
NOTE 2: When traveling, I don't use HCG as it requires refrigeration, instead just travel with T ampules + inject as needed.
re how to figure out the dose, this is the math I am rolling with:
6500 IUs -> 0.50ml (Full contents of an Ovitrelle syringe)
650 IUs -> 0.05ml
520 IUs -> 0.04ml
390 IUs -> 0.03ml
I answered this question a long time ago, there are a few more details there:
HCG discontinued (NOT) in the UK. Now what?
I've read this forum from time to time over the years, but this is my first time posting here. I'd value your thoughts on my little problem. I have secondary hypo and my baseline testosterone was last measured at a whopping 239 ng/dl!!! Cut a long story short, everything else is in good order...
Ovitrelle needs to be stored in fridge.
Once the Ovitrelle pen is finished, I use it to store Testosterone cypionate from the ampoule, for microdosing. I have been doing that for years.
So if it is sent from one (hot) country to another hot country and kept out of the fridge for a week, I guess it would be useless, right?
It is supposed to be stored in the fridge but not frozen. Even while on transportation, temperature must be below 8ºC.
I used to preload 0.2 tenths (260 IU) in 3 tenths insulin syringes to be administered twice a week, with this, an ovitrelle pen would give me 25 doses, almost always more, about 27 doses, I keep the syringes in the refrigerator, and they last 3 months till the last one. I never noticed that they stopped working over time, everything has gone perfectly well.
Completely agree
What is your TRT/hCG dose and frequency?In case it helps anybody:
For European folks working with ampules and Ovitrelle, the most convenient way to inject HCG is to do what I have done for 5 years with excellent results, simply combine the HCG shot into the T shot (credit to Nelson for the original idea when I started TRT) by adding 1-2 drops from the HCG in Ovitrelle into the T shot syringe (the one you actually inject for a single time). This is best accomplished moving the contents of the original single-shot Ovitrelle syringe into an insulin syringe that shows you the milliliter amounts, and keeping that in the fridge.
Advantages:
1. No need to mix with bacteriostatic water
2. No extra holes / shots [ i.e. inject T + HCG together ]
3. No risk of infection due to re-use of the same syringe to inject yourself multiple times (wtf, don't re-use syringes!)
4. By far the absolute simplest way without unnecessary work
How I do it:
1. Put all the contents of the (useless, single-shot) Ovitrelle syringe into an insulin syringe, now you have a useful HCG syringe with marks (if not, get a better insulin syringe that shows you the amount)
2. Keep that HCG insulin syringe in the fridge [ from my reading, this is safe/effective for up to 60-90 days, I never had a problem ]. NOTE: I don't know if this makes a difference, but I also protect this syringe from light inside the fridge.
3. At T shot time: Put a few drops from the HCG syringe in the fridge into your T shot syringe
4. When you inject your T, you get HCG too, in the same shot & hole -why poke more holes than needed?
NOTE: I preload ~3 months of T shots at a time, but only take the HCG out of the fridge to add the drops at the time of the shot, obviously
NOTE 2: When traveling, I don't use HCG as it requires refrigeration, instead just travel with T ampules + inject as needed.
re how to figure out the dose, this is the math I am rolling with:
6500 IUs -> 0.50ml (Full contents of an Ovitrelle syringe)
650 IUs -> 0.05ml
520 IUs -> 0.04ml
390 IUs -> 0.03ml
I answered this question a long time ago, there are a few more details there:
HCG discontinued (NOT) in the UK. Now what?
I've read this forum from time to time over the years, but this is my first time posting here. I'd value your thoughts on my little problem. I have secondary hypo and my baseline testosterone was last measured at a whopping 239 ng/dl!!! Cut a long story short, everything else is in good order...
I don't know if the expiration date will still be valid. But I don't see why it would be necessary to transfer to a vial. I would keep each Pen separately and avoid tampering. On the other hand, the Pen is also a vial with its rubber cap, if it were so necessary to put all the content together in a single vial, I would put everything in only one Ovitrelle pen. Normally its content is 0.5 ml, but it fits much more. I, for example, usually put 2 ml of testosterone inside the ovitrelle pen and then take smaller doses.
I would put it back in the cold to avoid further degradation, but still would consider I have to use it within 30 days. That's just my thought.
Well damn the one ive had for years sitting in a cabinet may not be good any more but ill still try it and see hahah
One pen is 47€ in Finland
