Nandrolone (Deca) Base TRT Trial

[Gman86]

Are those mg numbers, per week?

Yup. And I also inject EOD. Except HCG. I inject that E3D

 

[lebroseixoife]

Still on the nandrolone base protocol, but every time I do an injection, I get this anxiety, heart racing (but heart rate is normal) for like 12 hours from injection. I am doing 30mg of NPP and 10mg of test propionate ED. I am thinking about dropping test level down to 4mg ED because all the information I am reading makes me think the anxiety and stuff is from my E2 spiking from the test propionate, or some form of dopamine thing.

What do you think?

Edit: I am going to drop down to 4mg test propionate ED and do the shots at night. We'll see if that helps.
Edit 2: doing the test prop at night was a PITA, but resolved day time anxiety. Only thing I noticed was lower energy in the afternoon. EQ and Libido are good at 200mg of NPP and 28-35mg of test prop a week is yielding good results for me. Since that stabilized, I added in 420iu HCG e2d and that's adding a little bit of libido. I'll probably do labs soon and see where I am.

 

[lebroseixoife]

I’ve never tried exogenous estradiol before

Was on like 250 deca and 50 test prop. Now I lowered deca to 200, kept test prop at 50mg, and now using 20mg primo and 20mg masteron. Also on 500iu’s of HCG, and around 1.25mg of selegiline sublingually EOD. I’m pretty bad about taking the selegiline regularly tho

One thing to note that I forgot to mention is that since lowering my deca and adding the dht’s, I’m having very strong morning wood again. Before adding the dht’s I only got morning wood once in a blue moon. And I’m talking about actual morning wood, not just from having to pee. So I feel like this is probably a good change

Hey, how is the new protocol working with primo and masteron?

 

[lebroseixoife]

Update. I was on 200mg a week of NPP, and running roughly 35mg a week of test prop. Things stabilized and I get good erections and such. Libido is decent. Strength is great. Only problem is the penis sensitivity is a bit much and causes me to ejaculate within five or so minutes of sex. I recently made an adjustment to lower my dose of NPP to 175mg a week, and left my test prop at the same dose. I haven't noticed a change yet. I do like the protocol. It was a adjustment once it switched over after a few months, but I feel good.
Any advice on the penis sensitivity issue? Is it the DHN vs DHT issue?

 

[Gman86]

Hey, how is the new protocol working with primo and masteron?

So I ended up giving them both up. I didn’t notice any benefits, other than maybe an increased frequency of morning wood. Other than that I think I felt a little worse mood wise. Not anything significant. But I’m very in tune with my body and how I feel and just very little things. Like how easy it is to maintain eye contact, and how easy it is to smile a lot. Kind of hard to explain, but I just feel like I feel a little better mood wise on just deca and a low amount of test, vs deca, low test and a small amount of primo and mast. At least in the experiment/ dosages that I just tried them all at

 

[FunkOdyssey]

So I ended up giving them both up. I didn’t notice any benefits, other than maybe an increased frequency of morning wood. Other than that I think I felt a little worse mood wise. Not anything significant. But I’m very in tune with my body and how I feel and just very little things. Like how easy it is to maintain eye contact, and how easy it is to smile a lot. Kind of hard to explain, but I just feel like I feel a little better mood wise on just deca and a low amount of test, vs deca, low test and a small amount of primo and mast. At least in the experiment/ dosages that I just tried them all at

I know you ran a sort of TRT+ protocol for a long time, using a test enanthate base and smaller complimentary doses of deca and primo. It seems like you ran that for years if I'm not mistaken. How does your current deca base with a small dose of test prop compare to your old TRT+ protocol?

 

[Gman86]

I know you ran a sort of TRT+ protocol for a long time, using a test enanthate base and smaller complimentary doses of deca and primo. It seems like you ran that for years if I'm not mistaken. How does your current deca base with a small dose of test prop compare to your old TRT+ protocol?

Hey Funk, hope ur doing well. So great question. And ya I ran a test base in a 2:1:1 ratio. Test:decarimo. Ran that for at least a couple years.

I would say I feel about the same in all areas on that protocol, as I do on this deca base and low dose test prop protocol. I know, boring answer lol. Mood wise I think I feel about the same. Energy and brain function wise I think I feel the same. Sleeps definitely the same. Libido is the same I think. Erections seem the same. Orgasms seem the same. I’ve had a decreased sensitivity for at least like 5-7 years now, so that’s been the same. It’s probably from running my total androgens a bit too high, if I had to guess. It’s not like crazy desensitized. Just takes longer to finish than pre HRT, or even my early days on HRT.

Gym performance and body composition seems about the same. I’ve obv put on more muscle since I ran the test, deca and primo protocol, but like gym performance seems about the same, muscles look about the same as far as fullness and stuff, and body fat seems about the same. I think my strength was slightly better on the test base, but if it was, it wasn’t by much. But I think it was slightly

So since I didn’t really notice any benefits to the test based protocol, I think I’m gonna continue sticking with the nandrolone base. Strictly due to being vain and wanting to preserve my hair as much as possible. That’s literally the only reason lol. Not ashamed to admit it lol

 

[Gman86]

@FunkOdyssey how are u currently doin? What’s ur current protocol? Did u ever end up trying the dht powder?

 

[FunkOdyssey]

@FunkOdyssey how are u currently doin? What’s ur current protocol? Did u ever end up trying the dht powder?

I'm pretty good. I've been doing somewhere around 20 mg test prop daily for quite awhile, with occasional experiments thrown in. I'm in the middle of quitting coffee for the 10th time so currently feeling garbage, but normally I feel pretty good on that dose of prop.

I never did try the dht powder, it's still unopened. It might be worth it's weight in gold now that DHT raws are no longer available anywhere.

 

[Gman86]

I'm pretty good. I've been doing somewhere around 20 mg test prop daily for quite awhile, with occasional experiments thrown in. I'm in the middle of quitting coffee for the 10th time so currently feeling garbage, but normally I feel pretty good on that dose of prop.

I never did try the dht powder, it's still unopened. It might be worth it's weight in gold now that DHT raws are no longer available anywhere.

Oh interesting. Any idea why dht powder raws are so hard to get?

And if I even had a nickel for every person I’ve heard talk about trying to quit coffee, I’d be pretty well off. My wife tries it like every other week lol. Not an easy task from what I’ve seen. I actually love the taste and smell of coffee, and love anything coffee flavored, but decided a long time ago to never have it regularly, due to not ever wanting to be dependent on it for energy

 

[camygod]

Oh interesting. Any idea why dht powder raws are so hard to get?

And if I even had a nickel for every person I’ve heard talk about trying to quit coffee, I’d be pretty well off. My wife tries it like every other week lol. Not an easy task from what I’ve seen. I actually love the taste and smell of coffee, and love anything coffee flavored, but decided a long time ago to never have it regularly, due to not ever wanting to be dependent on it for energy

I messaged ppl and they said they would get email when they get back in stock
That cortex lab arse blocked me for saying it was out of stock as he was pushing his stupid overpriced source list

 

[Gman86]

I messaged ppl and they said they would get email when they get back in stock
That cortex lab arse blocked me for saying it was out of stock as he was pushing his stupid overpriced source list

Well just goes to show that he’s for profits over his followers, which obv makes any information he shares suspect

 

[camygod]

Well just goes to show that he’s for profits over his followers, which obv makes an information he shares suspect

I got his source list just to see and it was all sites I already knew
Mans a grifter I feel dirty for giving him moneY
Lucky was half priced but it's worth about $10 at most not $100
He thinks he is some expert in trt and charges crazy amount for his services
Bellend

 

[lebroseixoife]

I'm pretty good. I've been doing somewhere around 20 mg test prop daily for quite awhile, with occasional experiments thrown in. I'm in the middle of quitting coffee for the 10th time so currently feeling garbage, but normally I feel pretty good on that dose of prop.

I never did try the dht powder, it's still unopened. It might be worth it's weight in gold now that DHT raws are no longer available anywhere.

Ain't that the truth? Suddenly, DHT powder is gone. Dafuq?

I messaged ppl and they said they would get email when they get back in stock
That cortex lab arse blocked me for saying it was out of stock as he was pushing his stupid overpriced source list

I got his list and was disappointed that there was no source for oral DHT. He talks about oral DHT on his channel but does not share that source in the document. I even asked him in an e-mail. Silence.