Long-Term HCG Monotherapy Results

[Mastodont]

How about body composition?

 

[obesechess]

How about body composition?

Improving, but there’s a lot of other stuff going on there - as a formerly obese person my metabolism is quite slow, up until recently I worked a very sedentary job, and I take other medications that can impact body composition. I’ve actually got better insurance now and have already booked appointments with a hepatologist (my liver enzymes have been elevated off and on for a few years and I’m wondering if there’s a relationship between that and my body composition) and a nutritionist.

So, yeah, short version is “body composition is getting better but not the way you’d expect for test levels in the 700s, but I wouldn’t read into that too much.”

EDIT: I should note that the improvements are taking place without drastic changes to diet or exercise, which suggests that the higher T and perhaps lower levels of 17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone are helping.

 

[Janneik]

How are you going?

I think i try hcg-mono too. Now on 5000iu for fertility but baby is coming now so i can reduce dose.

 

[chriskchris]

This is a great thread, much appreciated you sharing your insights.

I'm 40-years old now but started out with secondary around 15/16. After years' of trying Clomid, Test-C + HCG, Test-C alone, I found myself last year getting the best results with monotherapy for a couple months before I run out of luck. Going to try the 300 miu/d dose like you now given your stated success. Was trying 500 miu EOD which worked for a bit before it went cold.

Did an E2 test last month and got 80 pgl/mL which is astronomical and twice the reference range of high. Did another one last week and got 39 pg/ml after scaling down my HCG dose to 300 from 500.

I believe the answer for me is also in the HCG and have not had luck on standalone Test-C beyond short intervals. E2 levels always around 30-40 pg/ml on 100 mg per week but don't feel the same way as I do with HCG - particularly with libido and sexual wellness, energy overall.

Would appreciate if you can continue sharing your results with us. Very tough to find someone in your/our position over so many years.

Overall I find HCG quite cyclical, meaning it works for a while then stops. But I stop using it for a couple weeks and go back, usually it works exceptionally well again before running dry a week or too later. Always thought it was E2 or potency from Pregnyl but have never been able to figure it out. Doing more blood work on my dime lately so hopefully can get some answers here.

 

[obesechess]

This is a great thread, much appreciated you sharing your insights.

I'm 40-years old now but started out with secondary around 15/16. After years' of trying Clomid, Test-C + HCG, Test-C alone, I found myself last year getting the best results with monotherapy for a couple months before I run out of luck. Going to try the 300 miu/d dose like you now given your stated success. Was trying 500 miu EOD which worked for a bit before it went cold.

Did an E2 test last month and got 80 pgl/mL which is astronomical and twice the reference range of high. Did another one last week and got 39 pg/ml after scaling down my HCG dose to 300 from 500.

I believe the answer for me is also in the HCG and have not had luck on standalone Test-C beyond short intervals. E2 levels always around 30-40 pg/ml on 100 mg per week but don't feel the same way as I do with HCG - particularly with libido and sexual wellness, energy overall.

Would appreciate if you can continue sharing your results with us. Very tough to find someone in your/our position over so many years.

Overall I find HCG quite cyclical, meaning it works for a while then stops. But I stop using it for a couple weeks and go back, usually it works exceptionally well again before running dry a week or too later. Always thought it was E2 or potency from Pregnyl but have never been able to figure it out. Doing more blood work on my dime lately so hopefully can get some answers here.

Cheers, thanks! I've got blood work coming up in the next week or so and I'll try to remember to post my results. Anecdotally I still feel completely fine - I can still perform in the bedroom and I'm gaining muscle in the gym, no real issues there.

One weird issue is my body fat distribution, though I suspect this may be genetic as my dad carries fat similarly - I'm at single digits on my arms, legs, and upper back, and then 26% on my chest and 44% on my stomach. Someone I spoke to about this hypothesized that it was related to HCG, but I haven't seen any studies that suggest this.