Ipamorelin only did the trick for me

[BadassBlues]

When I run Ipamorelin alone, I do 250 mcg twice daily.

 

[Gman86]

Yes sir. I do 150 mcg of a combination of 5 mg Ipam and 5 mg Mod GRF1-29 No Dac. Twice a day, first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, wait an hour before eating. Carbohydrates affect the uptake process. Then another at bedtime. No food for 2 hours before injection.

Awesome, thanks for the reply. Saved all this for when I consider hopping back on these in the future

 

[Fernando Almaguer]

When I run Ipamorelin alone, I do 250 mcg twice daily.

I've been thinking hard about getting it from that nutrition peptide website. It is much cheaper. I just hope it is legit, because I had some bunk stuff from purerawz.. no affiliation but still..

 

[Fernando Almaguer]

When I run Ipamorelin alone, I do 250 mcg twice daily.

what benefits do you report from that dose and frequency?

 

[BadassBlues]

what benefits do you report from that dose and frequency?

Ipamorelin gives me tremendous feeling of well being. The benefits I have seen are muscle growth, hair and skin improvement, loss of body fat, endurance, increase in sexual satisfaction and the best of all, it makes me feel vibrant. The increased dosage amplifies those benefits. I started at 100 mcg. Some do this 3 times a day, but fasting mid day, and my schedule make that impossible.

In his book, "Peptide Protocols", Dr. Seeds advises using 100 mcg of MOD-GRF 1-29. I bump that up to 150 mcg, so I alter my normal Ipamorelin dose to match the MOD 1-29 dose.

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[Guided_by_Voices]

For those wanting to try this but finding it difficult to work in because of your eating schedule, I inject similar doses as above but only 2-4 times per week, and I have seen similar benefits, although obviously likely at a slower rate, but great benefits nonetheless. For me the biggest benefit has been lasting resolution of a series of nagging injuries. I use Ipam/ModGRF together. I try to time it to have the GH peak during a workout, but I do a protein concoction before my heavier lifting workouts so I only inject before a fasted cardio-focused workout, or a light-day strength workout.

 

[Fernando Almaguer]

For those wanting to try this but finding it difficult to work in because of your eating schedule, I inject similar doses as above but only 2-4 times per week, and I have seen similar benefits, although obviously likely at a slower rate, but great benefits nonetheless. For me the biggest benefit has been lasting resolution of a series of nagging injuries. I use Ipam/ModGRF together. I try to time it to have the GH peak during a workout, but I do a protein concoction before my heavier lifting workouts so I only inject before a fasted cardio-focused workout, or a light-day strength workout.

where do you get your stuff please?

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

where do you get your stuff please?

For that combo I use Peptide Sciences

 

[Fernando Almaguer]

For that combo I use Peptide Sciences

cool how does this place sell the peptides so expensive compared to @NuSciencePeptides ?

 

[Cataceous]

cool how does this place sell the peptides so expensive compared to @NuSciencePeptides ?

One reason is that they claim USA manufacturing, whereas the others presumably use Chinese sources.

 

[Deleted member 43589]

cool how does this place sell the peptides so expensive compared to @NuSciencePeptides ?

I all a matter of how much money you want to make off your customer selling the same exact products. NuSciencepeptides is trying to keep the prices down so people can afford peptides. Peptide Sciences is trying to get rich quick. As I have said for a while, buying in bulk you can easily pay $3.00 per vial depending on how much you purchase and the particular peptide. For instance I can buy a box of 10 BPC 157 for $6/vial. Buying 100-1000 will be much less. IMHO, selling peptides at the price some of these online stores sell them for is robbery. I agree they all deserve to make some kind of a profit but there is a point where it becomes way too much of a mark up.

 

[Deleted member 43589]

One reason is that they claim USA manufacturing, whereas the others presumably use Chinese sources.

Trust me if you buy peptides from a US Lab you will pay a fortune. For instance, IGF Lr3 I can get for about $35/1mg. Take a look at the prices from a legitimate USA lab: same product $175/1mg. I had the product I use to buy tested using a SDSPage and it was absolutely an extremely good product. So these guys claiming US products are buying Chinese products and using the USA lie to charge even more.

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[BadassBlues]

As a businessman, I have no problem with anyone making a profit. If there is no motivation to gain from your endeavors, there is no reason to be open for business. Competition is what levels the playing field. At one point not so long ago, there were only a very few sources for quality peptides... and they were expensive. Things have changed, demand for the products has motivated other players to enter the game. This will lead to more competitive pricing.

As to Chinese products, the quality can be verified through 3rd party testing. I personally don't care where it comes from, I am only concerned with the quality of the product. Also, remember that the vast majority of the pharmaceuticals we all take are manufactured in China. That is not to say that some Chinese products are less than stellar, Amazon is rife with them.

Give me a quality product at a fair price... that's all anyone can ask for.

 

[Cataceous]

As a businessman, I have no problem with anyone making a profit. If there is no motivation to gain from your endeavors, there is no reason to be open for business. Competition is what levels the playing field. At one point not so long ago, there were only a very few sources for quality peptides... and they were expensive. Things have changed, demand for the products has motivated other players to enter the game. This will lead to more competitive pricing.
...
Give me a quality product at a fair price... that's all anyone can ask for.

I agree with these points in general. However, sending money to China in particular seems increasingly problematic. It can no longer be plausibly denied that in doing so we are empowering a totalitarian regime whose long range intentions are far from benign. The objection is largely philosophical, as the peptide market is undoubtedly minuscule relative to overall trade, and it's not realistic to ask people to pay two or three times as much for an equivalent product. Nonetheless, as awareness of the issue increases there may be more political will to reduce our reliance on adversaries.

 

[Cataceous]

That's why you buy domestically and do not take the risk, plus typically 3 days to get your products

I doubt most end users are buying directly from China. The point is that most of the domestic suppliers buy from there, and hopefully at least test for purity. Where do you source yours?

 

[Gman86]

You are correct brother, we really try to be the lowest with the best customer experience. Our t/a is typically the same day or the next day as well, plus we actually answer our phones and text people back!

Just placed an order for a couple bottles of both ipa and CJC, as well as some bac water. I did the free shipping, but I’m jc, whats the difference in shipping times between the free and $9.99 shipping? Roughly

 

[Deleted member 43589]

I agree with these points in general. However, sending money to China in particular seems increasingly problematic. It can no longer be plausibly denied that in doing so we are empowering a totalitarian regime whose long range intentions are far from benign. The objection is largely philosophical, as the peptide market is undoubtedly minuscule relative to overall trade, and it's not realistic to ask people to pay two or three times as much for an equivalent product. Nonetheless, as awareness of the issue increases there may be more political will to reduce our reliance on adversaries.

I certainly do agree with you, however, when companies in the USA only care about ripping people off, its hard to fight it. Prices here just keep going up and up. Look at the cost of bacteriostatic water. REDICULOUS, it's just distilled water and 0.9% benzyl alcohol, easiest thing in the world to make,. yet we are paying ridiculous prices for it. Most everything you buy on Amazon or Ebay comes from China. Most stuff we buy at any other store is made in China. We have so many companies that set up manufacturing in China to cut costs and then claim it is a USA product and make huge profits. Nike, manufactures their shoes in China and charges American prices, we had a shortage of automobiles because some of the parts we needed were made in China, yet prices go up. Most all of our pharmaceutical companies are located in China and use Chinese raw products to make American drugs and jack up the prices for Americans.

I know an American guy who complained about doing business with China and started synthesizing peptides and HGH himself. The cost to make it was very inexpensive. Instead of passing this cost off to his American customers he charges American prices while the Chinese still sell the same product for 1/2 the price. We have a lot of people concerned about doing business with China but business in America is not concerned about trying to compete with Chinese prices. We will always be dependent on China and other countries with cheap labor until American business is willing to make things here and sell them at a reasonable price.

 

[Cataceous]

I certainly do agree with you, however, when companies in the USA only care about ripping people off, its hard to fight it. Prices here just keep going up and up. Look at the cost of bacteriostatic water. REDICULOUS, it's just distilled water and 0.9% benzyl alcohol, easiest thing in the world to make,. yet we are paying ridiculous prices for it. Most everything you buy on Amazon or Ebay comes from China. Most stuff we buy at any other store is made in China. We have so many companies that set up manufacturing in China to cut costs and then claim it is a USA product and make huge profits. Nike, manufactures their shoes in China and charges American prices, we had a shortage of automobiles because some of the parts we needed were made in China, yet prices go up. Most all of our pharmaceutical companies are located in China and use Chinese raw products to make American drugs and jack up the prices for Americans.

... We have a lot of people concerned about doing business with China but business in America is not concerned about trying to compete with Chinese prices. We will always be dependent on China and other countries with cheap labor until American business is willing to make things here and sell them at a reasonable price.

In theory, if a market is unfettered then businesses should not be able to make excess profits; easy money would encourage others to jump in, increasing supply and lowering the cost. The reality is that there are some inefficiencies and perceived risks — for both buyers and sellers — that help to inflate prices. I have to question the blanket statement that domestic companies are intent on ripping people off. What is this based on? Just because the cost of some raw materials appears low does not mean the cost of doing business is low. And I'm sure you're aware that having our government print and give out money like crazy is a factor in the price increases, as are the various supply chain disruptions, government regulations, taxes, etc.

A quick search suggests that average wages in China are about a quarter of what they are here. That's one reason why domestic production has dwindled. I don't object to companies seeking less expensive labor; I just prefer that it be in countries that are not hostile to us.