Legally, yes. There are also straight DHT topicals out there, which would be my preference if all you're trying to do is tune up an otherwise good protocol that lacks DHT:
You can try Butea Superba. Some claim that it raises DHT and I have found it to sometimes create the affects described for DHT, however I find it a bit inconsistent.
Legally, yes. There are also straight DHT topicals out there, which would be my preference if all you're trying to do is tune up an otherwise good protocol that lacks DHT:
Say what you like, but I want higher DHT! Deeper voice, manly chest hair, higher libido, and fortunately I am not prone to male-pattern baldness.
You are out to lunch if you think driving up your DHT is going to result in a deeper voice, not happening post-puberty no matter how high you drive up your FT/DHT levels!
Increased body hair growth is common especially if you are genetically prone but keep in mind that some of the new hair growth will be darker (dark rogue hairs/horse hairs some would say) ,thicker and denser (shoulders/upper back).
Density and distribution of hair is comes down to genetics.
Higher libido is not a given if you already have healthy FT/DHT levels.
Hope you understand that if one is genetically prone to MPB high DHT levels are not needed in order to accelerate such as it comes down to the sensitivity of the AR at the hair follicle to DHT.
Even then there are also other factors at play here.
What testosterone formulations help increase DHT? Is scrotal cream/gel/patch the only way?
Transdermal T (standard application) especially scrotal!
Oral TU.
What else can help increase DHT?
Nothing natty is going to have a significant impact.
And perhaps more importantly - how would I know if I'm producing too much DHT and should lower
As you would know blood work will tell your where serum levels fall in the reference range.
Even then still need to keep in mind what is happening at the tissue level let alone sensitivity of the AR.
Sides such as acne, oily skin let alone MPB comes down to genetics let alone sensitivity of the AR.
SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN SEX HORMONE-BINDING GLOBULIN WITH USE OF TESTOSTERONE UNDECANOATE CAPSULES (JATENZO) IN MEN WITH HYPOGONADISM (2022) Alyssa Yee*, Maria Uloko, Irwin Goldstein, San Diego, CA INTRODUCTION AND OBJECTIVE: Jatenzo (Clarus Therapeutics) which consists of the highly...
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Changes in calculated free T, SHBG, Estradiol, DHT, LH and FSH after oral TU
Effects of oral TU and topical T on calculated free T, DHT, estradiol (E2), LH, FSH and SHBG are depicted in Fig. 6. As expected in both treatment groups, T administration caused significant elevations from baseline in free T, DHT, and estradiol and decreases in, LH, FSH and SHBG. The magnitude of effects observed in oral TU patients paralleled those seen in patients treated with topical T and the differences in responses between the treatment groups was not statistically different. However, there was a trend toward higher free T concentrations in oral TU patients compared to topical T patients and a greater mean decline in SHBG in oralTU patients. The greater increase in free T from baseline for the oral TU group was partly a function of a 36% decrease in mean SHBG from 28.6 ± 14.7 (SD) to 17.0 ±7.6 nmol/L in the oral TU group compared to essentially no change in the topical T group from 26.8 ± 10 to 26.4 ± 11.7 nmol/L. However, both baseline and final mean SHBG concentrations remained within the normal range for eugonadal men (10.8 to 46.6 nmol/L) at the final study visit in both groups.
Over the course of the study, mean estradiol levels increased to slightly above the upper end of the eugonadal range in both treatment groups [oral TU: 32 ± 14 pg/mL (117 ± 51 pmol/L) and topical T: 33 ± 18 pg/mL (121 ± 66 pmol/L]. Plasma DHT concentrations for the oral TU- and topical T treated patients were essentially identical at all PK visits and at the final visit [73 ng/dL (2.5 nmol/L) were slightly above the normal upper limit of 65 ng/dL (2.2 nmol/L). Mean change from baseline in the serum concentrations of LH and FSH at end of study (AM pre-dose concentration) in the oral TU and topical T patients showed an approximately 70% decrease from mean baseline values.
You are out to lunch if you think driving up your DHT is going to result in a deeper voice, not happening post-puberty no matter how high you drive up your FT/DHT levels!
It **did** happen on the two occasions I used Andactrim (for PE). Also happened when I was doing compounded T cream from Defy/Empower and applied it to the scrotum, but this was more inconsistent. In fact, it was the Defy doctor that told me to use it on the scrotum to increase DHT *and* get a deeper voice (alas temporarily).
I didn’t know oral TU had the same effect on DHT as scrotal cream. That’s the one thing the urologist recommended when Natesto wasn’t cutting it but I was afraid it would cause liver issues. (now I know that’s not the case… but he’s already in the process of getting approval for testopel).
Curious if anyone has experienced a sudden onset of elevated DHT levels? Over the past 6 months my DHT has jumped from 79 to 123. Estradiol went from 39 to 52. My program for the last five years is 90mg Test Cyp 2x week. I have RX for AI but rarely if ever need it. I average high 800’s approx...
