Hooked on Oxandrolone?

[albert88]

Hi All.

I was prescribed 25 mg of Oxandrolone, once per day.

Doc suggested I take it Mon-Fri, then off on Saturday/Sunday.

I did this with my 120mg/week T injections. The results were great - better mood, better gym performance, better recovery, better looking, never tired, lot's of energy.

Fast forward after about 12 weeks of using 25mg/day, Mon-Fri, I stopped and my world came crashing down. My energy slowly went away, I was always tired, the mood wasn't as good as before.

I am now about 2 months in, only on 120mg/T per week, and still never felt as good as before starting the Oxandrolone.

Today I took 1 25 mg capsule, and I'm getting that good feeling again. More energy, better mental state, etc.

This stuff is coming from a reputable pharmacy, I doubt it's anything but Oxandrolone.

Am I hooked for life? How come 2 months wasn't enough to get back to "normal"? Anyone else feel this?

As a side note - a while back I was prescribed Nandrolone, took it for about 2 months and I felt absolutely AMAZING on it. The confidence, sense of well being, etc. were through the roof but ED kicked in and I stopped. Took like 2 months to fix the ED after stopping.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

You probably do well on TRT + anabolics since they increase free T.

 

[albert88]

You probably do well on TRT + anabolics since they increase free T.

I kept my food intake super clean, my blood test markers were all very good except cholesterol was a bit off, not majorly. I think controlled by Vacepa.

With this said, I'd be worried about long term use if I continued. So more than 2 months to get back to feeling my baseline?

Energy and motivation are more important to me to get back to baseline than the other benefits of using Oxandrolone...

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

If' you're going to restart the Oxandrolone, I suggest using a much smaller dose (12 mg) no more than 3 days per week pre-workout and see how that does. That should reduce sides and may give you most of the benefits.

 

[albert88]

If' you're going to restart the Oxandrolone, I suggest using a much smaller dose (12 mg) no more than 3 days per week pre-workout and see how that does. That should reduce sides and may give you most of the benefits.

Excellent input - I just noticed this pharmacy brought options to go lower than 25 mg per capsule. This is new, they never went lower. I have a good amount left of the current amount, but next order I will go with your suggestion.

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

I've had situations where I bought empty capsules, and cut or opened the capsules to reduce the dose. Annoying but easily doable.

 

[Gladiator]

Maybe you need more than 120mg of testosterone a week then you could stop taking the other. I would like to see your bloods on bothe protocols before giving an more advice/suggestions

 

[albert88]

Maybe you need more than 120mg of testosterone a week then you could stop taking the other. I would like to see your bloods on bothe protocols before giving an more advice/suggestions

Absolutely - so below are my labs AFTER 3 months of continued Oxandrolone use, 120mg/week Testosterone, no AI, 800 IU of HCG, and also Sermorelin/Ipamorelin:

In 1 week, I'll have my new bloods in for going 2 months with NO oxandrolone.

 

[Gladiator]

Absolutely - so below are my labs AFTER 3 months of continued Oxandrolone use, 120mg/week Testosterone, no AI, 800 IU of HCG, and also Sermorelin/Ipamorelin:

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In 1 week, I'll have my new bloods in for going 2 months with NO oxandrolone.

I really want to see the new labs. They will tell a better story about what’s going on.
I can really think a higher testosterone amount would be better for you when not on the other

 

[BigBamBoo]

I was on 12mg EOD. Things were good for a few months. Then out of the blue my right calf and foot swelled up like a ballon.
Went to my doctor. Did an ultra sound to rule out blood clot. Could not find anything.

I noticed the morning before taking Oxandrolone my foot would be less swollen.
Stopped taking it and with in two weeks almost all the swelling was gone. By week three all gone.

of course everyone is different but I will never take it again.

 

[Wilson7]

Absolutely - so below are my labs AFTER 3 months of continued Oxandrolone use, 120mg/week Testosterone, no AI, 800 IU of HCG, and also Sermorelin/Ipamorelin:

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In 1 week, I'll have my new bloods in for going 2 months with NO oxandrolone.

The question is, what do your labs look like at the end of 12 weeks of 25 mg/d of OX, in particular GGT, ALT and lipids. Your LDL and non HDL are high wo OX, your HDL is likely tanked on OX and perhaps LDL higher. Long term that just isn't a good combo. If you have a zero score on a CT angiogram and no family history, probably lower risk. The second issue is hepatic, running OX long term wo a break, I'd get a liver US yearly and watch LFTs. While OX is the least hepatotoxic, least doesn't mean not at all. The feeling of well being is something that is common with OX. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I really wish drostanolone would be made available compounded, it might solve some of the feel better, libido/ED issues wo hepatic or lipid related sides, particularly in guys that have post 5ARi syndromes.

 

[albert88]

The question is, what do your labs look like at the end of 12 weeks of 25 mg/d of OX, in particular GGT, ALT and lipids. Your LDL and non HDL are high wo OX, your HDL is likely tanked on OX and perhaps LDL higher. Long term that just isn't a good combo. If you have a zero score on a CT angiogram and no family history, probably lower risk. The second issue is hepatic, running OX long term wo a break, I'd get a liver US yearly and watch LFTs. While OX is the least hepatotoxic, least doesn't mean not at all. The feeling of well being is something that is common with OX. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I really wish drostanolone would be made available compounded, it might solve some of the feel better, libido/ED issues wo hepatic or lipid related sides, particularly in guys that have post 5ARi syndromes.

Truly appreciate your reply. The labs I posted above are right after 3 months of oxandrolone use.

The labs I drew blood for on Monday, which are not yet posted, are right after 2 months of NO oxandrolone use - we'll see these soon.

 

[torrential]

Good thread thanks OP for sharing and everyone else for the constructive contributions.

One simple suggestion: If your doctor continues to prescribe ox and you choose to use it, consider splitting the dose. Half in the morning half in the evening. Sometimes the bolus dose can cause undesirable side effects.

 

[Wilson7]

Truly appreciate your reply. The labs I posted above are right after 3 months of oxandrolone use.

The labs I drew blood for on Monday, which are not yet posted, are right after 2 months of NO oxandrolone use - we'll see these soon.

The question is, what do your labs look like at the end of 12 weeks of 25 mg/d of OX, in particular GGT, ALT and lipids. Your LDL and non HDL are high wo OX, your HDL is likely tanked on OX and perhaps LDL higher. Long term that just isn't a good combo. If you have a zero score on a CT angiogram and no family history, probably lower risk. The second issue is hepatic, running OX long term wo a break, I'd get a liver US yearly and watch LFTs. While OX is the least hepatotoxic, least doesn't mean not at all. The feeling of well being is something that is common with OX. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I really wish drostanolone would be made available compounded, it might solve some of the feel better, libido/ED issues wo hepatic or lipid related sides, particularly in guys that have post 5ARi syndromes.

Well then, I read that wrong. Those labs at the end of a 12 week run of 25 mg/d of OX are not bad, HDL is higher than I would have expected, and I have seen this on labs from others running OX, but for some their HDL is in the low 20's or upper teens on just 10 mg/d. LFTs look fine. I will be interested as well in seeing the 8 weeks off, HDL should be close to normalized and you'll see where LDL and non-HDL goes, hopefully down. Still, I wouldn't run OX year round, not worth the risks and there is enough that can go wrong even with good labs. Consider yourself very lucky to be able to get script OX.

 

[albert88]

Well then, I read that wrong. Those labs at the end of a 12 week run of 25 mg/d of OX are not bad, HDL is higher than I would have expected, and I have seen this on labs from others running OX, but for some their HDL is in the low 20's or upper teens on just 10 mg/d. LFTs look fine. I will be interested as well in seeing the 8 weeks off, HDL should be close to normalized and you'll see where LDL and non-HDL goes, hopefully down. Still, I wouldn't run OX year round, not worth the risks and there is enough that can go wrong even with good labs. Consider yourself very lucky to be able to get script OX.

Truly appreciate your input. I'll post the labs as soon as I get them to see how much I recovered in 2 months.

 

[tareload]

Probably won't skew too much...

Dependence on Oxandrolone?

Hi All. I was prescribed 25 mg of Oxandrolone, once per day. Doc suggested I take it Mon-Fri, then off on Saturday/Sunday. I did this with my 120mg/week T injections. The results were great - better mood, better gym p…

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[albert88]

Okay I got my lab results after 2 months of no Oxandrolone. It looks like that 1 25 mg of Oxandrolone I took the day before the test already had increased the Free T?

 

[MarkLA]

HCT says normal but is at the very top of range, FYI. I would deal with that...

 

[albert88]

HCT says normal but is at the very top of range, FYI. I would deal with that...

While I was ON Oxandrolone for 3 months, my HCT was still normal. I think there's probably a swing of 2, 3, 5% given hydration levels. I bet if I tested again, that same day in the evening, the number would be different.

 

[tareload]

Okay I got my lab results after 2 months of no Oxandrolone. It looks like that 1 25 mg of Oxandrolone I took the day before the test already had increased the Free T?

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SHBG on the prior blood work (+ oxandrolone)?

What changed on your protocol on the (- oxandrolone) except removing the oxandrolone?

All else the same. Same trough measurement, etc etc. Only difference is you removed the oxandrolone?