Does anyone use Nandrolone (Deca Durabolin) ?

[Disco41]

My progesterone did not increase it went from .7(pre Nandrolone) to .1(post Nandrolone) I don't have my last prolactin tests but no issues there as well and I'm confident its not any higher than before. My experience with therapeutic Nandrolone has been positive way WAY better than vicodin, Percocet, ect. with no negative side effects its a real shame the FDA/DEA Nazi's are they way they are when it comes to this and similar medications.

Paul, i have enjoyed reading your journey, thank you so very much for sharing. After everything I have read the past few months on nandrolone, I think you made a great decision, esp based on your outcomes. I am very familiar with CRPS. As a matter of fact i evaluated a pt last week with bilateral wrist fx's that needed ORIF's. The right one, at 5 weeks out, was blue and swollen. I thought "oh fuuuuu&k, this is going to be a beast". Luckily, she responded immediately to manual therapy and exercises. There is still lot contracture, but the CRPS red flags dissipated. I remember thinking about nandrolone while i evaluated her. A valuable case study you are. Thank you.

 

[madman]

I am a PT. I have been educating myself on nandrolone deconate for the past few months b/c I am interested in doing a cycle of it for muscle composition. But I too come across study after study like this one. I swear if I needed orthopedic surgery i would pretty much demand 100-200mg a week to facilitate proper healing. Even post injury until the surgery could take place. I think of so very many patients that could have benefited from this. Low dose does the trick and the side effects are minimal.

What type of muscle composition benefits are you looking to attain using nandrolone? I would choose testosterone over nandrolone or at least hope you plan on using low dose test with nandrolone as it alone will shut down your endogenous test levels and will not replace the benefits testosterone offers. Depending on your goals one can achieve reasonable body composition changes with diet/training as using any androgenic/anabolic steroid would be pointless if diet is not in check. Also keeping/maintaining any gains from exogenous hormone manipulation is a whole other ball game!

 

[GA8314]

How does 150 mg Test Cyp plus 150 mg Nandrolone sound for a little spring enhancement? No major goals, diet will be in check, but just a little extra anabolism for some muscle mass addition. I would be following labs. I'm also on TRT already.

 

[MikeXL]

Sounds like someone is about to get big

How does 150 mg Test Cyp plus 150 mg Nandrolone sound for a little spring enhancement? No major goals, diet will be in check, but just a little extra anabolism for some muscle mass addition. I would be following labs. I'm also on TRT already.

 

[Brian7624]

I'm curious if any of you who have run/ran low dose Nandrolone 100-200 with your TRT experienced any noticeable boost in libido while taking it? Because of the obvious bump you would get in free T, also if so did you notice any reduction or problems after stopping.

 

[GA8314]

I saw a BB forum where a guy on 400 Nandrolone/week taking Cabergoline 0.5mg Every 3 days drop his prolactin from 5.5 to 1.2. Basically, he drove it below normal range.

I'm not sure, but enough bro's do say it can increase prolactin (I do not know mechanism as I think bros confuse progestins and progesterone with prolactin somehow. I personally can not see how they are related).

I'm in the process of starting ND 200/week WITH an NPP kickstart of 75mg EOD. I'll drop the NPP after 6 weeks and continue on with Nandrolone Decanoate 200 mg in conjunction with 200 mg T cyp.

I'll follow up with labs to see about prolactin issues, but the issue is that if I think my E2 is well controlled (based on familiarity of T cyp), then I will assume any nipple tenderness or discharge is related to prolactin and I will start Cabergoline likely right away versus wait for labs.

And therein lies the problem with bro-science. Not enough patience and not enough labs to actually see what's going on.

In a way I don't blame the "bro's" on this point because of potential for irreversible (unless surgery) gyno etc.......

Nelson, you are right, there is little to no data on this issue.

 

[magnus68]

It has lowered mine after switching from Lisinopril AND my Kidney function improved !

 

[madman]

How does 150 mg Test Cyp plus 150 mg Nandrolone sound for a little spring enhancement? No major goals, diet will be in check, but just a little extra anabolism for some muscle mass addition. I would be following labs. I'm also on TRT already.

200-400mg/week of nandrolone would be a more effective dose, anything less I would say you are wasting your time!

 

[GA8314]

Yeah madman, I'm going to do (am doing) 200/200

I really do not want to get out of hand. If it works, then my goal is to titrate down the nandrolone or just stop and call it a day. I've done well with TRT and it's not a huge priority to get, well, huge..... Honestly, I've been curious and just want to see how it goes.

 

[TestAdvocate]

I too experimented with Nandrolone, 200mg / week. Didn't try until my TRT was absolutely on point for the first year. When I added nanrolone (200mg/week) I certainly had the high prolactin symptons.........troulbe with erections, sore and itchy nipples. Got labs, sure enough I had high prolactin..........just barely out of the range. Even just barely out of the range gave me the symptoms. I added caber immediately, .25mg / twice a week........I just simply took the caber in the morning with injection days......symptoms almost immediately went away, and the next lab showed prolactin went down into the low range, although progesterone stays high (a good thing). I'll keep this protocol because it does seem to make feel good, a very well sense of being. I'm 6/3" and a very lean 225lbs, the nandrolone helps hold on to muscle mass......it keeps me muscular.

 

[GA8314]

I too experimented with Nandrolone, 200mg / week. Didn't try until my TRT was absolutely on point for the first year. When I added nanrolone (200mg/week) I certainly had the high prolactin symptons.........troulbe with erections, sore and itchy nipples. Got labs, sure enough I had high prolactin..........just barely out of the range. Even just barely out of the range gave me the symptoms. I added caber immediately, .25mg / twice a week........I just simply took the caber in the morning with injection days......symptoms almost immediately went away, and the next lab showed prolactin went down into the low range, although progesterone stays high (a good thing). I'll keep this protocol because it does seem to make feel good, a very well sense of being. I'm 6/3" and a very lean 225lbs, the nandrolone helps hold on to muscle mass......it keeps me muscular.

Do you still have any libido or erection problems?? I assume they can come from high progesterone also, and not just prolactin. Can you elaborate on how you feel from a libido perspective and if that solved erection issues? Honestly, for me, nothing is going to be worth sacrificing those things. I just don't care that much about adding extra muscle.

I do have Cabergoline on hand.....

 

[TestAdvocate]

Do you still have any libido or erection problems?? I assume they can come from high progesterone also, and not just prolactin. Can you elaborate on how you feel from a libido perspective and if that solved erection issues? Honestly, for me, nothing is going to be worth sacrificing those things. I just don't care that much about adding extra muscle.

I do have Cabergoline on hand.....

I never experienced libido issues from the high prolactin, just erection issues. Cabergoline was the answer indeed, took away the itchy, sore, sensitive nipples too. I also asked for a daily Cialis prescription, which definitely helps. I take 10mg a day of Cialis. I'm 55 years old, and the erections are back like when I was 18 years old. Stuff is amazing.

 

[GA8314]

I never experienced libido issues from the high prolactin, just erection issues. Cabergoline was the answer indeed, took away the itchy, sore, sensitive nipples too. I also asked for a daily Cialis prescription, which definitely helps. I take 10mg a day of Cialis. I'm 55 years old, and the erections are back like when I was 18 years old. Stuff is amazing.

Good news indeed. Are you still on 200/200 per week? Still doing Caber 0.25 twice per week? How have your lipids been?

 

[TestAdvocate]

Well, my Test Cyp prescription is for 160mg/week.........so I stay as close to 160mg/week as possible. All of my panels for the first 12 months of TRT was based on exactly the protocol prescribed by the Dr. I added the Nandrolone at about month 14 or 15. I'm way more prone to side effects on the Test than the Nandrolone. The nandrolone slightly impacted my lipids negatively, however I'm not sold on the "cholesterol myth". I've stated that here on this forum before that the whole cholesterol impact on cardiovascular health was pretty much downright fraud.........long story there. Don't know if you've ever looked it up. There's an 11 minute video condensed from a 2 hour PBS program review that explains it all very well. I'll be glad to look that up and share it with you. It's totally worth your time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry1Z8buyd8I

 

[GA8314]

Well, my Test Cyp prescription is for 160mg/week.........so I stay as close to 160mg/week as possible. All of my panels for the first 12 months of TRT was based on exactly the protocol prescribed by the Dr. I added the Nandrolone at about month 14 or 15. I'm way more prone to side effects on the Test than the Nandrolone. The nandrolone slightly impacted my lipids negatively, however I'm not sold on the "cholesterol myth". I've stated that here on this forum before that the whole cholesterol impact on cardiovascular health was pretty much downright fraud.........long story there. Don't know if you've ever looked it up. There's an 11 minute video condensed from a 2 hour PBS program review that explains it all very well. I'll be glad to look that up and share it with you. It's totally worth your time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry1Z8buyd8I

Yeah, I'm not convinced either about the cholesterol theory of atherosclerosis.

But, are you still on 200 nandrolone/week? Do you inject once per week or twice?

What you describe is essentially what Nelson's book describes/suggests. That lower doses of both compounds may offer increased benefits with less side effects.....

I'll keep the forum posted and vice-versa...

 

[mopes]

Don't know why but I'm fascinated by nandrolone. Love hearing these anecdotes.

 

[TestAdvocate]

Yeah, I'm not convinced either about the cholesterol theory of atherosclerosis.

But, are you still on 200 nandrolone/week? Do you inject once per week or twice?

What you describe is essentially what Nelson's book describes/suggests. That lower doses of both compounds may offer increased benefits with less side effects.....

I'll keep the forum posted and vice-versa...

Yes, I'm still taking the 200mg / week of nandrolone along with my prescribed TRT. I've been on it for a little over a year. For me at this point, the TRT dose has simply replaced my younger version of testosterone production. The added nandrolone does a little more for me with added (mild anabolic) effect. I can work out harder, a little more extreme, makes me feel good, more lean muscle mass. The kind that turns heads when you enter a restaurant and such! lol

 

[TestAdvocate]

Yes, I'm still taking the 200mg / week of nandrolone along with my prescribed TRT. I've been on it for a little over a year. For me at this point, the TRT dose has simply replaced my younger version of testosterone production. The added nandrolone does a little more for me with added (mild anabolic) effect. I can work out harder, a little more extreme, makes me feel good, more lean muscle mass. The kind that turns heads when you enter a restaurant and such! lol

Oh, forgot to tell you, I inject twice a week. I just put it in the same syringe with the Test. I don't use HCG.

 

[mopes]

Oh, forgot to tell you, I inject twice a week. I just put it in the same syringe with the Test. I don't use HCG.

Did you have a challenge getting your doc to script the nandrolone? If you don't mind me asking what do you pay for a vial?

 

[GA8314]

Yes, I'm still taking the 200mg / week of nandrolone along with my prescribed TRT. I've been on it for a little over a year. For me at this point, the TRT dose has simply replaced my younger version of testosterone production. The added nandrolone does a little more for me with added (mild anabolic) effect. I can work out harder, a little more extreme, makes me feel good, more lean muscle mass. The kind that turns heads when you enter a restaurant and such! lol

Great to hear. I'm using NPP (phenylpropionate) concurrent to Decanoate. It's going to be a big guess, but the idea is quicker results with NPP while Decanoate begins to kick in. I may not be exactly to 200 Decanoate for 8 weeks or so.

I'm still designing the mini blast, but have been on 300 T for a month with some oxandrolone (25mg/day).

Goal is drop oxandrolone after 2 weeks of about 200 NPP (total/wk), and concurrently maybe run 150-200 of Decanoate. My concern there is that I will "overshoot" a bit on the total Nandrolone exposure.

After 4 weeks on 300 T and 25 oxandrolone/day, the results are ridiculous. Not BB style, but for sure noticeable. I will experiment a bit with Nandrolone with goal to titrate to lowest dose which I deem safe and effective. We will see........

I've done up to 400 T cyp in past and did not like it. I really don't like higher dose (even though BB's would consider that LOW) testosterone. I hate the bloat look and realize that's a possibility if Nandrolone is overdosed. Again, I've always thought this stuff needs to be individualized. I'm oscillating between my aggressive start and starting slow.

I'm not even 1 week into NPP ND at this time. I've read that NPP kicks in in about 10 days or so. We'll see.

I really do not want a lot of bloaty bulk. Clearly it's dose dependent. Much information on Nandrolone (aside from this site) is from Bodybuilding forums and while the bro's do have good info, they also have very different goals and who knows what doses they are actually shooting from UGL's (even though I have NPP and ND from UGL. Test is US pharm grade though).

Again, I'll keep everyone posted. I will get labs in probably 2 months.