DHEA Supplementation: Have You Felt Any Effects?

[Rhino 2.0]

My DHEA was tested at 295 ug/dl. Range (138.5-475.2)ug/dl. I was prescribed 40mg of DHEA and it did nothing but make me feel worse. I don't know why DHEA makes me feel tired, fatigued, and weaker. The complete opposite of what I wanted it to do. But anyways, with my current level do I need to supplement with it anyway? I am 26. Ever since I stopped taking the DHEA a couple days ago i feel better. Maybe since my testosterone was already at good levels my body just converted it to other hormones. Im never taking DHEA again!

 

[Baltazar]

Hey dude
dhea opposes cortisol
thats why it makes you tired
if you’re always running on stress hormone as energy supply
eat well
carbs protein and fat 33/33/33

and take your dhea before bed
if ur up to solve ur issue
imho

 

[Vince]

Hey dude
dhea opposes cortisol
thats why it makes you tired
if you're always running on stress hormone as energy supply
eat well
carbs protein and fat 33/33/33

and take your dhea before bed
if ur up to solve ur issue
imho

I always take my DHEA in the morning, keeps me awake at night.

 

[Baltazar]

Did you try when you feel so awake at night to eat something like carb
or drink a cup of water with baking soda?

me if I take dhea after a strong sweetened coffee I feel so awake

do you drink coffee or any caffeinated beverage Vince ?

 

[Baltazar]

Me I drink a day about 5 cups of coffee

so my cortisol is always high during day until before bed

that’s why when I take dhea
my body appreciate me for giving my adrenal a break

sp I sleep like a baby

 

[Vince]

Did you try when you feel so awake at night to eat something like carb
or drink a cup of water with baking soda?

me if I take dhea after a strong sweetened coffee I feel so awake

do you drink coffee or any caffeinated beverage Vince ?

I only drink coffee in the morning. I've been low-carb now for over 7 years.

 

[Baltazar]

Then that’s why
you run on stress hormones
like adrenaline , cortisol , estrogen, and prolactin ... to get your energy supplies

i can’t compare you to me
because I eat about 400 g carb a day
by the way I’m not fat at all nor skinny
I’m 6’3 240
12 percent body fat

what I wanna say
one week I experimented with 25 mg dhea as pill

i got the same result as you Vince

did you try to take
light aromatase inhibitor before taking dhea?
like vitamin A palmitate ?
vitamin e tocopherols?
zinc ?
vitamin D ?
vitamin k2 menatretenone ?


But for me no matter what
25 mg will be estrogen
even if I took anastrazole

I dunno why the people over dose on it

while a man in his 20s produce maximum 15 mgs day ?

did you try 5 mg dose ?

 

[Vince]

I only supplement with DHEA to keep my levels in a good range. I've never had to use an AI thankfully. I do have a thread on all the supplements I take.

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?13534-I-take-too-many-supplements

 

[Baltazar]

Still no answer
did you try 5 mgs dosage of dhea Vince ?

 

[TestAdvocate]

Then that’s why
you run on stress hormones
like adrenaline , cortisol , estrogen, and prolactin ... to get your energy supplies

i can’t compare you to me
because I eat about 400 g carb a day
by the way I’m not fat at all nor skinny
I’m 6’3 240
12 percent body fat

what I wanna say
one week I experimented with 25 mg dhea as pill

i got the same result as you Vince

did you try to take
light aromatase inhibitor before taking dhea?
like vitamin A palmitate ?
vitamin e tocopherols?
zinc ?
vitamin D ?
vitamin k2 menatretenone ?


But for me no matter what
25 mg will be estrogen
even if I took anastrazole

I dunno why the people over dose on it

while a man in his 20s produce maximum 15 mgs day ?

did you try 5 mg dose ?

I think it's very clear when you read through here several years of threads, with people trying DHEA in their protocol for optimization (meaning, no real symptoms but trying to achieve a certain number on a blood panel) that some of do well with it, and some of us had undesirable side affects and results. I certainly tried it, and will not do it again.

 

[Baltazar]

I think it's very clear when you read through here several years of threads, with people trying DHEA in their protocol for optimization (meaning, no real symptoms but trying to achieve a certain number on a blood panel) that some of do well with it, and some of us had undesirable side affects and results. I certainly tried it, and will not do it again.

You’re definetely right

thTs what happened with my pregnenolone experiment
and experience

i had a terrible depersonalization

but it all in all depend on person and his body needs


30mg pregnenolone made me over hysterically sad and angry at the world

1 to 10 mg made me amazing

dosage as well play a role
that’s why we should experiment

as captain said
over 100 mg dhea made him over sweaty

and me over 10 mg I sweat like hell
my wife always wake me up in the middle of the night
and let me sip water with baking soda
and she got worried a lot

 

[Vince]

Still no answer
did you try 5 mgs dosage of dhea Vince ?

I originally took 10 mg of DHEA before I started trt, it raised my estradiol and lowered my testosterone. Then I tried 25 mg of DHEA before trt and it lowered my testosterone and it raised my estrogen even more. Now because I'm on TRT. I'm supplementing with DHEA only to keep it in a good range. I tried 10 milligrams then 25 and then 35, presently I'm using 25 mg a day. I've never used 5mg.

 

[Baltazar]

Interesting Vince

so so dhea now is not raising your e2 ?

I have a friend that is doing 2 shots a week
he takes dhea 5 mg sublingually 5 times a week
and none on the days of injections

and he is feeling amazing.

I’m m trying his way nowadays

but I’m taking 10 mg 2 hour before workout sublingually
and I wanna try another 10 mg before bed

it usually wake me up in the middle of the night through a rush of adrenaline or cortisol

i quickly kill it by water and baking soda
and I sleep after 5 min

the problem are the acne for me
I’m a father and have acne like a teenager
and my wife love popping them
and acne are so darn painful

bur how’s ur e2 nowaday?

 

[Vince]

Interesting Vince

so so dhea now is not raising your e2 ?

I have a friend that is doing 2 shots a week
he takes dhea 5 mg sublingually 5 times a week
and none on the days of injections

and he is feeling amazing.

I'm m trying his way nowadays

but I'm taking 10 mg 2 hour before workout sublingually
and I wanna try another 10 mg before bed

it usually wake me up in the middle of the night through a rush of adrenaline or cortisol

i quickly kill it by water and baking soda
and I sleep after 5 min

the problem are the acne for me
I'm a father and have acne like a teenager
and my wife love popping them
and acne are so darn painful

bur how's ur e2 nowaday?

I've never had high estradiol levels. So now that I am on testosterone it's nice to be able to increase my estrogen levels to good range. Estrogen follows testosterone and it's nice to be able to give my E2 a little boost with DHEA.

 

[lowe2sucks]

Did anybody have mood swings from DHEA?

 

[JQ88]

High e sucks.

Low e sucks too.
Better find that sweet spot.

20-29.

 

[lowe2sucks]

^what does this mean?

 

[JQ88]

This means that a lot of guess are sensitive to estradiol especially low shbg guys since there is more free E floating around.

This means that some guys have a very small window for optimal e2 levels.

This means that if estrogen gets too high they will suffer negative sides but if estrogen gets too low they will also suffer negative sides.

This is the most difficult part of trt for some men... keeping Free t high and estrogen in check.

Some men need their e2 in the 20-30 range on a sensitive reading... that’s what that means.

 

[lowe2sucks]

im not on trt my e2 cannot be high if thats what you want to say
last time on trt my e2 was lower than 20
i started to feel like crap after I added dhea and pregnenolone to my protocol.. not right away but few weeks in taking them. had a lot of bad side effects and still deal with them now I don't understand what happened
anybody has any suggestions why I might have bad reaction to these supplements? I thought you need to take them if on trt I've read this in Dr JOhn Crisler book and also heard him and few other doctors talking about this on podcasts.. if you take testosterone you induce hypogonadism and your pregnenolone and dhea falls down and they are important even neuroprotective. they didn't raise e2 for me because my e2 was never high on every bloodwork that I did after taking them
I also stopped responding to trt after them lost all muscle, strenght, brain fog came back
pregnenolone and dhea that I took was life flo brand (creams), I contacted them if there is any other ingredients not listed on label they said no.

 

[LTChris]

25 mg before bed, no noticeable difference