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Thanks @Willyt, @Cataceous I've attached a screenshot of my results (opposed to the excel). I'm dosing daily subQ. I can absolutely try reducing the dose - but any thoughts on the lack of variation? I'm not keen to blend Enan/Prop because my source of Prop is questionable and I think may be...

Hi @Cataceous, @Willyt, By way of an update, please see my results since February attached. I think my Peak result in May is incorrect - I think I missed the Propionate peak, somewhat evident by the higher estradiol value in the Trough result. In terms of my most recent July result, this is...

@Cataceous, insightful and thoughtful as always, thank you. Agree with your thoughts above. I’ll take a look at your spreadsheet and try to adopt in my results going forward. Much appreciated.

I wished that I could say that I understood this! I've read it a couple of times. If not too much trouble, could you breakdown the table column by column and any formulas used? Would be great to learn more about it. I'm more wondering whether I'm having some uncommon/adverse reaction to the...

Agreed, although the Jul-19 results were taken 20.5 hours after injection (I was injecting the night before). I have re-attached the table with injection times, and hours after injection. What do you think? Nonetheless, I think I should switch to another lab to retrieve results to check...

Just thinking more about this and acknowledging your point of Prop introducing noise in results, any thoughts on how I may be responding to Prop vs Enan from the above results? I'm not sure whether it would be more sensible to reduce the Propionate by 50% to 1mg or reduce the Enanthate instead...

Thanks @Cataceous , very insightful as always. Apologies for the delay, I wanted to get new results before replying. Your assertion that Propionate peaks earlier and drops quickly, I think is correct from the attached results. Notice the 29th July 2019 result (I had initially thought that this...

I'm hoping I'm not having to layer on something else to worry about.. but it's good to receive your steer on other avenues I could look into, thanks

Thanks, I presume Progesterone can be checked and supplemented to balance things out?

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Thanks @Cataceous and apologies for the 'very' delayed response: I am certainly experiencing more of these side effects since reducing my dosage further (see below); however, I can't confirm whether it is correlated with Prolactin as I didn't get it measured (which I will do in future and...

Hi there, I'd really appreciate any thoughts or guidance on protocol/results below. I am quite surprised by the prolactin result, and even the T and E result as I am on a low daily dose and this is before my next injection. Any thoughts would be very appreciated. Purpose is TRT and not sport...

Thanks @Cataceous I'll update this thread with my experience/findings/labs - particularly when I introduce GnRH. I wanted to go on the pulsatile pump years ago, but as you've mentioned elswhere, the cost is a barrier (not to mention the inconvenience of being tethered to a pump!).

Thank you for the thoughtful observation @Cataceous. Validation on approach is appreciated. I've already started to feel the effect of the modified dose/drop, which I hope will level out over time. Intrigued by your GnRH/enclomiphene experiment; I noticed that you had to reduce your...

Thanks, very thorough response! I have put the attached plan together. Does this seem like a reasonable approach? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks for this, very useful. For some benign reason, I was under the impression that TE stacked.

Thanks for this, insightful as always! I, too, agree with your synthesis; having been on daily TP for over a year, I find the daily variation excessive. It's bearable, but far from optimal. Are you no longer on the GnRH protocol? Is it correct to understand that you are currently on daily 3.2...

Hi Cataceous, I've finally found about 10 days this holiday to change my protocol. Thought I'd check in with you to enquire whether you stayed with this protocol? I have been on 10-11mg TP daily subq. I've been getting by - but it has been a struggle (fluctuating energy/motivation, acne...

Wow, so there really is no 'catch all bullet' :( I just finished some part time studying while working and if it was not for 'modafanil' I would have been overtaken by the fatigue. Stopped taking modafanil and the lethargy associated with protocol etc. has returned. It's like I'm a different...

@Cataceous Thought I’d check in; are you still on your Enanthate/Propionate protocol? Acknowledging that I ought to have allowed more time, I tried phenylpropionate for about 1.5 weeks. I found that I felt quite ‘flat’ much of the time (if that makes sense); I didn’t feel great. I’m tempted...

Thanks @Cataceous I'll give this a try and update this thread with the subjective outcome. Fingers crossed there is enough of an improvement!

Would be great to know how you get on 2-3 weeks after you start this protocol. Good luck with it

Thanks @Cataceous , very informative as always :) Last question, in terms of the enanthate/prop mix.. I'm assuming it would take much longer to stabilise on this protocol vs the phenylpronionate due to the much longer half life of the enanthate? What would you theorise is a sensible way of...

Thanks for this, very insightful. Can you elaborate re. behaviour? Fair to assume that unmixing esters is preferable over mixing them? Just trying to understand this a little more, how would a current dose 10.5mg of propionate per day subcutaneously translate to phenylpropionate dosing? Am I...

Really interesting. How do you think this protocol would compare to daily phenylpropinoate? Also, if you were to go down the undecanoate route, what dose of the undeca do you think would be required (as it has such a long half life)? I tend to dose at 12am at night, would that affect the above...

I suspect that I am experiencing similar (more variation than expected/wanted). Can you share any specifics with this protocol?

I experienced those symptoms when the dose was too high. In turn, I reduced the dose to 10-11mg per day and symptoms are much more manageable (but not optimal) - I inject around 12am each day and experience E elevating from about 5pm the next day. An AI certainly helps, but I then experience...

Thanks for posting your experience; I have followed a similar path since December 2018 - not feeling good on Enanthate. Switched to Propionate - much better. However, I am converting a lot to E. I'm currently injecting 10.5 - 11mg per day. I feel good-ish on this protocol (any less and I'm...