My first IGF-1 test (Lab)

Vince · Nov 10, 2015

IGF-1
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I, 71 ng/mL, 54 - 194

It is pretty low, I believe it should be around 200.

Vince Carter · Nov 10, 2015

I see why you're interested in Sermorelin, my numbers where better than yours though. What turned my off of it was, I mentioned the side's I had with other peptides, but it was another long-term commitment to therapy, too. What's Defy had to say about it for you?

Nelson Vergel · Nov 10, 2015

Vince

Am I remembering right that you said your total T is above 700 ng/dL?

ipi · Nov 10, 2015

For a new person on this forum can someone explain what is IGF-1 for and how is it related to the T levels?

Vince · Nov 10, 2015

Vince Carter said:
I see why you're interested in Sermorelin, my numbers where better than yours though. What turned my off of it was, I mentioned the side's I had with other peptides, but it was another long-term commitment to therapy, too. What's Defy had to say about it for you?

I'm going to start with 500mcg of Sermorelin Acetate, a lower dose because of the cost.

Vince · Nov 10, 2015

Nelson Vergel said:
Vince

Am I remembering right that you said your total T is above 700 ng/dL?

testosterone, serum 1059ng/dl 348-1197
free testosterone direct 28.9 pg/mL 6.6-18.1
dhea-sulate 214.9 ug/dL 48.9-344.2
estradiol, seneitive 27.3 pg/mL 8.0-35.0

Vince · Nov 10, 2015

ipi said:
For a new person on this forum can someone explain what is IGF-1 for and how is it related to the T levels?

Here's a good read, I do not believe it's related to T levels https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?235-What-is-Sermorelin

ecdysone · Feb 14, 2016

Why use such an archaic substance? 1 mg shouldn't cost more than $5 - can't see where's that is an issue.

Vince · Feb 15, 2016

ecdysone said:
Why use such an archaic substance? 1 mg shouldn't cost more than $5 - can't see where's that is an issue.

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Vince · Feb 15, 2016

ecdysone said:
Why use such an archaic substance? 1 mg shouldn't cost more than $5 - can't see where's that is an issue.

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?744-IGF-1-levels-low-how-to-boost

roadglide · Feb 16, 2016

I'm also getting an IGF-1 test this week. This is all new to me. I'll post the results. I read the links. Thanks for sharing Vince.

Jackie Treehorn · Feb 16, 2016

Vince said:
I'm going to start with 500mcg of Sermorelin Acetate, a lower dose because of the cost.

It is pricey, but hopefully it will be worth it in the long run. For ref, my IGF-1 was 143ng/mL (same Labcorp range as yours)

I'm on 1000mcg QD, and was told I'll probably be on that dosage for the better part of a year, after which I'll hopefully titrate down to 500mcg as a maintenance dose. I've only been on it for about a month and a half, so I don't feel or see any difference yet.

Kind of a pain in the ass pinning this stuff 7 days a week/365 days a year. I'm keeping Easy-Touch in business, because I go through a lot of 5/16"/31ga pins.

Vince · Feb 16, 2016

I believe I started November 1st. My sleep has definitely improved. I can sleep for over 8 hours, if I let myself sleep that long. Also my workouts are improving. It could be because of the better sleep.

Vince · Mar 30, 2016

My Insulin-Like Growth Factor from 3-21-16,
I been sub-q injecting 500mcg of Sermorelin Acetate every night since 11-12-15.
IGF-1 Insulin-Like Growth Factor I
73 ng/mL 49 - 188.
Basically the same.

Loki · Mar 30, 2016

Vince said:
My Insulin-Like Growth Factor from 3-21-16,
I been sub-q injecting 500mcg of Sermorelin Acetate every night since 11-12-15.
IGF-1 Insulin-Like Growth Factor I
73 ng/mL 49 - 188.
Basically the same.

That is surprising.. I wonder if there is any other way to measure what it is doing... Lot's of people report better sleep and I desperately need that... All I have ever read is IGF-1... I have not had my consult yet on my follow up but my IGF-1 was 285 on the same scale... So I don't think I should even bring it up to Dr Saya at this point...

Vince · Mar 30, 2016

Loki said:
That is surprising.. I wonder if there is any other way to measure what it is doing... Lot's of people report better sleep and I desperately need that... All I have ever read is IGF-1... I have not had my consult yet on my follow up but my IGF-1 was 285 on the same scale... So I don't think I should even bring it up to Dr Saya at this point...

I definitely sleep good and my workouts are good. Your IGF-1 is very high. https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?744-IGF-1-levels-low-how-to-boost

Loki · Mar 30, 2016

Vince said:
I definitely sleep good and my workouts are good. Your IGF-1 is very high. https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?744-IGF-1-levels-low-how-to-boost

And the sleep and workouts improved post Sermorelin? Yeah it was way out of range my follow up with Dr Saya is next week...

Vince · Mar 30, 2016

Loki said:
And the sleep and workouts improved post Sermorelin? Yeah it was way out of range my follow up with Dr Saya is next week...

Yes post sermorelin, sleep has improved definitely which probably has helped my workouts.

Loki · Mar 30, 2016

Vince said:
Yes post sermorelin, sleep has improved definitely which probably has helped my workouts.

I have dealt with sleep issues for 15 years... That makes me want to try it... But I thing my IGF-1 may disqualify me? I am not sure... I care more about a nice deep sleep and yes I am sure that improves work outs and lots of other stuff...

Jackie Treehorn · Apr 1, 2016

Loki said:
I have dealt with sleep issues for 15 years... That makes me want to try it... But I thing my IGF-1 may disqualify me? I am not sure... I care more about a nice deep sleep and yes I am sure that improves work outs and lots of other stuff...

Loki,

Your IGF-1 level is great, and it doesn't appear that you need Sermorelin. If you're looking for something that might help with your sleep, Defy has a nutritional med called "Calm." It's supposed to promote relaxation and sleep, along with being used to treat anxiety, muscle tension, and migraines. I've never tried it, so I can't comment on its effectiveness, but you could ask Dr. Saya about it, and get his opinion if it might be right for you.

http://defymedical.com/component/content/article/2-uncategorised/83-calm-injection-therapy