New Blood Work Labs

psaufan · Jun 14, 2019

Just got my labs back from Discounted Labs. A bit about me:

53 years old...6'0"...175 lbs. I inject 70 mg test cyp every 3 days...started subq two weeks ago...HCG (I draw up to the 15 mark on a 1 ml syringe) every 3 days...Ipamorelin/CJC-1295...200 mcg daily before bed. I drink four mixed drinks every evening...sometimes up to six on a weekend day.

How do I feel: overall...kinda blah. Low energy...a bit moody...don't find much funny anymore...not focused...low libido...distant with my wife...sleep is okay...I feel Ipamorelin/CJC1295 has caused bloating around my waist...and...I am paying Low T Nation $500 a month for this treatment. I have to get a physical and then I will schedule a consult with defy. Until then, I thought I'd see what you all thought about my labs. Three documents should be attached...hope they display properly.

I'd welcome any thoughts...

fifty · Jun 14, 2019

Labs look pretty good. $500 is robbery level.

I don’t understand all the Ipamorelin use on this board...seems like just something else to complicate things and drain your bank account.

I would try to reduce the alcohol some but test levels look good. Have you considered higher hcg like 250-500 every 3 days?

SilverSurfer · Jun 15, 2019

You’re drinking way too much.

MarcoFL · Jun 15, 2019

Agree to much to drink. I just committed to cut my wine consumption from 14 glasses a week to 6 for starters. Good luck to you.

Dansk · Jun 15, 2019

The booze is also dehydrating you, this shows in your BUN/Creatinine ratio, drink plenty of water daily.

psaufan · Jun 15, 2019

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.

For me, at this time, I feel the Ipamorelin/CJC1295 is a bust? Libido dropped and water gain once I started injecting it. I've had some gains, but at what price? Physically, mentally and financially? I am 53 years old...174 lbs...a lifelong runner with a runner's build until I herniated a disc in my lower back six years ago and can no longer run. I started working out four years ago and now have some good definition considering I had not lifted for the prior 49 years. However, I am never going to be Johnny Atlas...genetics...runner's frame. So, given that, is the Ipamorelin even worth the possible physical and mental issues for what possible gains I could obtain? Can't I cut back on the alcohol and do the same with just testosterone?

Rambling...sorry about that. Interestingly: since starting Ipamorelin, my nails grow very fast now and my skin tone has improved...t-shirts tighter across the chest...and, unfortunately, above the belt-line.

psaufan · Jun 15, 2019

fifty said:
Labs look pretty good. $500 is robbery level.

I don’t understand all the Ipamorelin use on this board...seems like just something else to complicate things and drain your bank account.

I would try to reduce the alcohol some but test levels look good. Have you considered higher hcg like 250-500 every 3 days?

Thanks for the reply. I do have a consult with Defy...I hear much better care and cheaper as well.

Do you mind if I ask why you suggest higher HCG?

Thanks again...

fifty · Jun 15, 2019

Hcg dose to almost restore normal intratesticular testosterone is 250iu eod.

HCG Use in Men for Regaining Testicular Function on TRT

pfuked · Jul 4, 2019

I think your water gain is from borderline high estrogen. decrease testosterone a bit and take a little aromatase inhibitor to get estrogen down to half what it is at currently and you should feel like new

psaufan · Jul 15, 2019

pfuked said:
I think your water gain is from borderline high estrogen. decrease testosterone a bit and take a little aromatase inhibitor to get estrogen down to half what it is at currently and you should feel like new

I started .3mg of arimidex this morning...anything I should expect over the next few days? I am to take this dosage on the same day as my test cyp injection, which is 70mg every 3.5 days. I also inject 200iu of HCG on the same day as my test cyp injection...should I move thst to the day after?

I had rather started at a lower dose, but that is what they sent me, so I assume they know what is best.

Any reason to question the above regiment? Thanks...

pfuked · Jul 15, 2019

I think your regiment looks good. My regiment is 60 mg sub Q test cyp every three days along with .25 mg arimidex and 300iu HCG. Everything is taken on the same day.

give it a week or 2 for the water weight to go down. Maybe focus on cardio to help drop the water. After a week or so you should feel and look a lot better. Good luck!

psaufan · Jul 29, 2019

pfuked said:
I think your regiment looks good. My regiment is 60 mg sub Q test cyp every three days along with .25 mg arimidex and 300iu HCG. Everything is taken on the same day.

give it a week or 2 for the water weight to go down. Maybe focus on cardio to help drop the water. After a week or so you should feel and look a lot better. Good luck!

Just hit my two-week mark on the arimidex. I have lost some of the water weight, which is good. Libido has nudged up a tad. As far as overall mood there has been some improvement...still somewhat 'blah', but as with libido, a nudge upward...still prone to 'react' to circumstances, if that makes sense.

My wife says that, with the high estrogen before, I was acting like a female going through PMS. She did note some improvement this last week, though, overall.

I know this stuff takes time and I will get blood work done at the 30-day mark. I am also increasing my HCG from 150iu to 300iu over time. Currently up to 200iu and will make my next injection 250iu.