Can I chime in here?
@readalot had a life altering discovery about his cardiac health. He is confident that TRT contributed to it. Does that bias his opinions? Maybe, but data is data. So, my advice is to simply look at the data he presents. He and
@Cataceous are both pretty content with their current status, yet they still offer their treasure trove of insight, perspective, experience and analysis.
You will find a crap ton of stuff on nandrolone here and at the other big site (you probably know which I am referring to). When reviewing all the information out there, try to categorize in your brain what is objective scientific fact and what is anecdotal subjective experience. If you talk to a scientist, he'll tell you anecdotal information is not very useful. But, when it comes to TRT, I think it's critically important.
A lot of people quote the rat study and dismiss the findings because the amount of drug used was extremely high. That said, I believe there are some commonly accepted conversion ratios when looking at animal models vs. humans. In other words, the dose may not be as high as it seems when considering that you have to take into account the model and conversion. I do NOT speak with authority on this, and I think it's a really good homework assignment for
@readalot or our pal
@madman (animal model dosing in relation to human dosing), as I am confident one of them will dig something good up!
All the science aside, I tried nandrolone on a few occasions, I am pretty confident in saying that I hated it. I trialed low dose, daily subQ injections a few different times. Oddly, I absolutely noted significantly increased acne flairs on nandrolone (I was under the impression that less DHT meant less acne). Even one dose would make existing acne angry, red and painful and promote new acne formation.
I also noticed what I would describe as a dull or blunted feeling - both physically in my head as well as emotionally. It's hard to describe. It's almost as though the psychological feeling of dullness/flatness was present, but also manifested itself physically in my left forehead. It wasn't dramatic, but I hated the way it felt. I imagine that some guys may take nandrolone, may experience what I am describing on a low level, and over time, it becomes a pervasive, overwhelming feeling that can best be described as depression. Like everyone else, I like to hear anecdotes, and I have heard others describe a dull/anhedonic emotional state while on nandrolone. And, I think it's an insidious process that slowly sneaks up on you like poison.
I was really hoping it was going to be a good option for me. I hoped it would allow me to use less testosterone, therefore getting less metabolite related side effects, and still be able to enjoy the androgenic benefits. Others have described feeling even better on it than on testosterone alone. No such luck, cause I hated it. It wasn't until the last time I tried it that I discovered how much I disliked the feeling while on it.
For reference, I tried nandrolone alone a few times; 1:1 test:nandrolone ratio with 10mg/day (5 test and 5 nan); 1:1 at 15mg/day (7.5 +7.5); and, 2:1 test:nandrolone.
In fairness, maybe a higher ratio of test to nandrolone would have worked better for me, but I have already had enough, and at this point I don't have any interest in trying it again.
Take home points: learn the science as best you can; you won't know if nandrolone is good, bad or neutral for you until you try it; but, keep others' experience in mind if you give it a try.
