Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
Did you ever measure your DHT level or just assumed it? Proviron can increase DHT and increase libido in some men but not in all. And the benefits tend to wear off with time. It’s not FDA approved in the US.
Hi Alex,Hey Nelson,
Big fan, I have been watching your videos for a few years. I have yet to get bloodwork and I realize this is of critical importance. I'm kind of grasping at straws here. I'm fairly certain I could benefit from higher DHT levels; what should I be looking for on bloodwork? I know the medically accepted ranges for hormones can be useless. I also realize that Proviron is illegal here and for that reason, it is less than ideal. Do you think I should try to upregulate 5AR? I'd like to try transdermal cream in conjunction with my daily injections but I don't know how to access it.
PS- I apologize for discussing illegal stuff.. I just now read the rules. I'm just desperate to fix my sex life.
Thanks,
Alex
I’m injecting DHT Valerate which is real dht with an ester attached to it. I’m aiming for high end of range so around 80. I’m getting bloodwork done tomorrow to see what 400mcg daily has done to my level. Before starting dht it was 48ng/dl while injecting 5.5 mg test e/ 3 mg test p daily.Hi Alex,
I wanted to ask if you could give an update on your progress possibly using DHT derivative?
I believe it is not just the dht that does this. Without all other hormones being adequately high the high dht can cause a significant shift in lipids and maybe triglycerides but I’m not sure. I’d think especially e2 is important to maintain healthy levels of hdl. This altered metabolism relating to the lipids may contribute to the acne. It’s not just a dht thing.Are side-effects of DHT like balding or acne are mostly genetics?
If someone have too high DHT but are not genetically prone to those side-effects, will those side-effects happen?
Or if someone is genetically prone to those side-effects, but his DHT is in range, will those side-effects still happen?
My DHT after 3 months on TRT is 125 ng/dl. Total Testosterone 1255 ng/dl. Dr Saya said the my DHT level is proportionate to where my Testosterone is, so it isn't concerning, unless I experience hair loss. But then I read here the ideal is 40-70 ng/dl. Does this mean too high DHT is ok as long as one doesn't experience negative side-effects?
So far I have no hair loss. Just bit of acnes. And faster hair growth.
My regimen, both 2x/week :
Testosterone cypionate 70 mg
HCG 400 IU
Hi NelsonI think using scrotal hydrogel testosterone cream is the way to go. Empower Pharmacy makes it now. It absorbs a lot better than the regular cream and it increases DHT and libido a lot better. That is what I am using now alone.
The prescription should be written as
Testosterone hydrogel cream , 200 mg/ml, 30 ml, #3, apply 4 clicks per day after showering as directed.
Testosterone in Atrevis hydrogel base = almost double test levels!
So I was using 200 mg/gm compounded cream from Empower, which is HRT base, for almost 3 years before I switched to Medquest Pharmacy to try the Atrevis Base. I have heard about increased absorption from Atrevis base, but damn! I was using 3 clicks twice daily of Empower’s HRT base and never got...www.excelmale.com
Well this is big news!!!! How long have you been doing this and how do you like it? You aren't even using HCG anymore? And why did you make the switch? and what about the estrogen pills you taking?I think using scrotal hydrogel testosterone cream is the way to go. Empower Pharmacy makes it now. It absorbs a lot better than the regular cream and it increases DHT and libido a lot better. That is what I am using now alone.
The prescription should be written as
Testosterone hydrogel cream , 200 mg/ml, 30 ml, #3, apply 4 clicks per day after showering as directed.
Testosterone in Atrevis hydrogel base = almost double test levels!
So I was using 200 mg/gm compounded cream from Empower, which is HRT base, for almost 3 years before I switched to Medquest Pharmacy to try the Atrevis Base. I have heard about increased absorption from Atrevis base, but damn! I was using 3 clicks twice daily of Empower’s HRT base and never got...www.excelmale.com
Is this the Atrevis base? Confused in that I thought it was alcohol based and could not be scrotally applied.I think using scrotal hydrogel testosterone cream is the way to go. Empower Pharmacy makes it now. It absorbs a lot better than the regular cream and it increases DHT and libido a lot better. That is what I am using now alone.
The prescription should be written as
Testosterone hydrogel cream , 200 mg/ml, 30 ml, #3, apply 4 clicks per day after showering as directed.
Testosterone in Atrevis hydrogel base = almost double test levels!
So I was using 200 mg/gm compounded cream from Empower, which is HRT base, for almost 3 years before I switched to Medquest Pharmacy to try the Atrevis Base. I have heard about increased absorption from Atrevis base, but damn! I was using 3 clicks twice daily of Empower’s HRT base and never got...www.excelmale.com
Hi Nelson. So is your total application 400 mg of T?I think using scrotal hydrogel testosterone cream is the way to go. Empower Pharmacy makes it now. It absorbs a lot better than the regular cream and it increases DHT and libido a lot better. That is what I am using now alone.
The prescription should be written as
Testosterone hydrogel cream , 200 mg/ml, 30 ml, #3, apply 4 clicks per day after showering as directed.
Testosterone in Atrevis hydrogel base = almost double test levels!
So I was using 200 mg/gm compounded cream from Empower, which is HRT base, for almost 3 years before I switched to Medquest Pharmacy to try the Atrevis Base. I have heard about increased absorption from Atrevis base, but damn! I was using 3 clicks twice daily of Empower’s HRT base and never got...www.excelmale.com
Hello Rock,I do cycle derivatives but the heightened DHT has given me consistant results over the last 8 months. As with all there is a balance though, I made some rushed adjustments and it bit me in the ass. Stay on course with minor adjustments with a long distance vision is paramount......
his dose is 200mg a day.Hi Nelson. So is your total application 400 mg of T?
hi . hows the libido now? has the primobolan helped ?Hi Nelson
Am I right in saying that you use this gel without also using injections? I've been using injections with and without HCG and despite bloodwork all looking great, unfortunately I have not been able to restoire libido... I am now thinking of experimenting with a little extra DHT from a DHT derivative such as Primobolan depot maybe starting at 5mg per day added to my daily test injections...
I added 5mg per day of Primo but it made no difference... However this was a underground lab so its possible to be bunk.hi . hows the libido now? has the primobolan helped ?
Is your libido any better in general?I added 5mg per day of Primo but it made no difference... However this was a underground lab so its possible to be bunk.
No... No improvement whatsoever... I just don't think testosterone injections/HCG/Exemestane will ever work for me... It is absolutely destroying me... Extremely depressing! I would like to experiment with DHT gel but not sure if it is something that I will be able to source and not sure if my doc will prescribe it to me...Is your libido any better in general?