TRT and Muscle Loss

[over60andusingtrt]

Has anyone seen a correlation between high T levels and muscle loss? In other words, the higher your T levels are, the harder it is to maintain muscle mass.

 

[danneskjold]

No-the opposite is true. You may want to spend some time learning more about anabolics and what they do, especially if you're already taking TRT.

If you're asking for help please post what issue you are having, along with timelines, bloodwork, your current workout routine, and any other health issues.

 

[over60andusingtrt]

No-the opposite is true. You may want to spend some time learning more about anabolics and what they do, especially if you're already taking TRT.

If you're asking for help please post what issue you are having, along with timelines, bloodwork, your current workout routine, and any other health issues.

What do I need to learn about steroids?

 

[madman]

Has anyone seen a correlation between high T levels and muscle loss? In other words, the higher your T levels are, the harder it is to maintain muscle mass.

As you would know being in a hypogonadal state would prevent one from maintaining/gaining muscle.

Many men will notice a loss of muscle/increased adipose when FT levels become too low.

Even if one were following a proper diet/training protocol while in a low-T state they would still have a hard diet maintaining let alone gaining muscle mass.

Having healthy let alone high FT levels would allow one to maintain/gain muscle when following a proper diet/training protocol.

The only way one would lose muscle with healthy/high FT levels would be in cases of extreme caloric restriction or not taking in enough protein!

 

[over60andusingtrt]

As you would know being in a hypogonadal state would prevent one from maintaining/gaining muscle.

Many men will notice a loss of muscle/increased adipose when FT levels become too low.

Even if one were following a proper diet/training protocol while in a low-T state they would still have a hard diet maintaining let alone gaining muscle mass.

Having healthy let alone high FT levels would allow one to maintain/gain muscle when following a proper diet/training protocol.

The only way one would lose muscle with healthy/high FT levels would be in cases of extreme caloric restriction/not taking in enough protein!

Would 1 gram per pound of body weight suffice?

 

[madman]

Would 1 gram per pound of body weight suffice?

Yes that would be more than enough especially if you are in a caloric surplus.

 

[over60andusingtrt]

Yes that would be more than enough especially if you are in a caloric surplus.

What if I'm not in 'caloric surplus'?

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

High T levels might not over-ride other negative factors such as eating too little, over-training, or poor sleep, however I have never heard of any experience or logic that would suggest higher T levels alone would reduce muscle mass, even in the case of elevated estrogen. If, for example, using T cream late in the day caused general stimulation which caused poor sleep which caused muscle loss, that is not the T "causing the muscle loss but there could be a correlation. There are lots of variables beyond T.

 

[over60andusingtrt]

High T levels might not over-ride other negative factors such as eating too little, over-training, or poor sleep, however I have never heard of any experience or logic that would suggest higher T levels alone would reduce muscle mass, even in the case of elevated estrogen. If, for example, using T cream late in the day caused general stimulation which caused poor sleep which caused muscle loss, that is not the T "causing the muscle loss but there could be a correlation. There are lots of variables beyond T.

Thanks, it's really being over 60 and consuming 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight without getting fat at the same time. Any tips?

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

1 gram seems excessive. I would shoot for around 100 grams per day on average from quality foods, avoid wheat, seed oils, and processed foods, and then train sensibly looking to progress. Do that for 18 month or so and then reassess.

 

[madman]

What if I'm not in 'caloric surplus?

The Impact of Protein on Muscle Mass Gain: The Truth, the Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth

www.excelmale.com

 

[Iron Gator]

Just to add my two cents. The more testosterone you have, the easier it is to add strength and muscle.
I often see, probably truthfully I just haven't looked at studies, folks say that with a higher testosterone levels you can get muscle gains at lower protein intake than you could without testosterone because one of the main effects of testosterone is to improve Muscle Protein Synthesis.
I am in the midst of an experiment where I have raised my daily protein consumption from 1gram per pound to 1.5 grams per pound. This has me at just over 300 grams of protein per day at a 250-350 caloric increase. My goal is to see if it's a reasonable approach to lean gaining or even recomping (muscle gain while losing fat).

 

[over60andusingtrt]

Just to add my two cents. The more testosterone you have, the easier it is to add strength and muscle.
I often see, probably truthfully I just haven't looked at studies, folks say that with a higher testosterone levels you can get muscle gains at lower protein intake than you could without testosterone because one of the main effects of testosterone is to improve Muscle Protein Synthesis.
I am in the midst of an experiment where I have raised my daily protein consumption from 1gram per pound to 1.5 grams per pound. This has me at just over 300 grams of protein per day at a 250-350 caloric increase. My goal is to see if it's a reasonable approach to lean gaining or even recomping (muscle gain while losing fat).

How do you manage to ingest that much protein each day? Do you mind if I ask how old you are and how often you workout?

 

[Iron Gator]

How do you manage to ingest that much protein each day? Do you mind if I ask how old you are and how often you workout?

Lots of protein drinks and powder.
I’m 53. I train 6 days a week hitting every body part twice a week.