THE DEA And ACCESS TO TRT TELEMEDICINE
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xqfq
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I believe that if you are already a telemedicine patient you will be "grandfathered in" to an 180 day extension, but after that will need to meet with the telemedicine physician in person or do the telemedicine physician <-> local physician group meeting.
I certainly hope this does not go through, at least in its current form. There was a lot of opposition so I am hopeful.
My personal feeling is that if this does go through, the odds of testosterone being descheduled go up quite a bit due to the impact on the trans community.
There is at least one TRT clinic that appears to be planning a local affiliated-physician program to meet compliance. I'm not sure how it will work out. Let's hope hacks like this aren't needed. I'm sure programs like this will increase cost.
SteveCleves
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Not a lot of new info but maybe interesting.
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I talked to Defy, They basically said Ill have to come in to their facility once then back to business as usual if this passes
The way the political environment is going, states may start banning the prescription of any androgen to a biological female for any reason. Trans, non-binary, QOL, etc.
It's an extreme extrapolation to get there from the current environment and its focus on minors. I'll be surprised if even one state does this. In contrast, the legalization of marijuana suggests a trend towards permissiveness for adults.
Never underestimate the power of the far right and when religion gets mixed into politics it can make for a very hostile environment toward anyone that doesn't "fit in."
Phil Goodman
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Puberty blockers and other “gender affirming” treatments for kids should be banned. Doesn’t take a religion to tell anyone with common sense that much, and wanting it to be blocked doesn’t make someone far right. If you ask anyone(I’d bet $10,000 yourself included) 10 years ago if we should be giving children hormones or chopping off their genitals they’d wonder why that was even a question…..yet in 2023 here we are.
When politics morphs into religion, religion loses its focus and purpose. I'm both mind and heart boggled by this. Making enemies of our neighbors isn't a solution. All that does is reinforce the concept that the enemy is at the gates. Love your neighbor as yourself. . . .
Read more deply into this; its an overeaction.
Theyre banning it for minors (good)
In response people are outraged claiming it will lead to it effecting adults with no proof whatsoever.
Similar to how in this thread there are tons of overreactions (my own included) claiming that we will need to see a doctor in office and have our telemedicine doctor in person once a month if we want to continue out prescription.
After reading further into it; worst case scenario you have to go into your HRT clinic office for a check up then never again.
Remember in 2017 when everyone online was freaking out about Net Neutrality repeal? I remember people claiming the internet would never be the same/we would have to pay for subscription services to access package deals for websites, etc..
Meanwhile 6 years later, the internet feels exactly the same, nothing changed, it was all political, and it was all an overreaction
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xqfq
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DEA Delays Ending Controlled-Substances Prescribing Flexibilities, Buys More Time for Virtual MAT Providers
The DEA is seeking more time before it rolls out its final rules regulating telehealth after the end of the public health emergency.
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Looks like, as of May 1st, that the DEA has backed down at least temporarily. So come May 11th there won't be any changes to care, at least not yet.
My read of the above article is that it's unclear what will ultimately happen, but the DEA recognizes their proposed rules in its current form probably isn't workable and wants more time to figure out a different solution. I suppose it's possible they go forward with their original rules but it seems unlikely? If they were going to do that, it seems like they wouldn't have bothered to postpone the rule change.
This looks like a win, at least so far, and appears driven by the amount of comments and publicity we generated.
awesome. Annoying we have to wait further to see what comes next. I was hoping we would have a concrete answer this monthDEA Delays Ending Controlled-Substances Prescribing Flexibilities, Buys More Time for Virtual MAT Providers
The DEA is seeking more time before it rolls out its final rules regulating telehealth after the end of the public health emergency.
Looks like, as of May 1st, that the DEA has backed down at least temporarily. So come May 11th there won't be any changes to care, at least not yet.
My read of the above article is that it's unclear what will ultimately happen, but the DEA recognizes their proposed rules in its current form probably isn't workable and wants more time to figure out a different solution. I suppose it's possible they go forward with their original rules but it seems unlikely? If they were going to do that, it seems like they wouldn't have bothered to postpone the rule change.
This looks like a win, at least so far, and appears driven by the amount of comments and publicity we generated.
definitely a good sign, but I feel like we’re in the same place. This could still go through, its just a matter of when. Hopefully they just drop the whole thing
Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
The DEA decided to keep the COVID waivers for telemedicine !
Pending EO 12866 Regulatory Review
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Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
The final rule will come later.
SteveCleves
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Translation from my past working life. "jesus fucking christ phil, you pissed a lot of people off, including SENATORS!!! 40 thousand comments? what were you thinking??!! warren already hates me because of that run in i had with her last year. you better figure out a better way to do this because I am not spending all summer in hearings when i could be in virginia beach. you have 6 months to figure this out, call some people. get the fuck out of my office"
Systemlord
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There are always higher numbers of people that didn’t provide feedback, 40,000 represents only a fraction of people against this proposed law.
So basically we’re in Limbo until the final decision is made who knows when
lol
Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
DEA extends telemedicine prescribing of controlled substances, for now.
Thanks to the tens of thousands of public comments (over 38,000) submitted by concerned citizens, the DEA will be extending the current rules, first passed as part of the COVID-19 emergency, that have made healthcare more accessible. DEA seeks to temporarily extend virtual prescribing for...
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Pacman
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Is there an indication as to when that would be? Do they have a "by X date" released somewhere?
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