Testosterone Suspension TRT

[Bigben]

I have had the best success with test suspension for trt. 10 mg every day or EOD. micronized that goes thru a 27g insulin. Sq or I'm depends on the day. Has anyone else tried it? I personally think it's the best protocol with the least side effects if dosed low. Tried pharma suspension testoviron and ugl. Most ugly is not properly dosed. A few I've tried are good tho. Tried vet grade and it is not micronized so impossible to go thru a 27g. What I notice is next to no estrogen issues so no AI needed, stronger, leaner, no bloating, less ball shrinkage better body comp. 10 mg or 70 a week I look better than 200mg test e or c . More energy and skin is tighter like it's GH.

 

[Gman86]

This is fascinating stuff to me, as I just switched to test prop, and am interested in faster ester compounds atm. I was kind of worried that maybe faster esters would be less effective, as they are in and out of the body faster, leaving less time to do their thing, especially in regards to strength and muscle, but it seems like ur having the opposite effect.

what’s the half life of test suspension? suspension is just test without any ester attached, correct?

does test suspension cause pain after injecting? I feel like I’ve heard this

 

[Bigben]

This is fascinating stuff to me, as I just switched to test prop, and am interested in faster ester compounds atm. I was kind of worried that maybe faster esters would be less effective, as they are in and out of the body faster, leaving less time to do their thing, especially in regards to strength and muscle, but it seems like ur having the opposite effect.

what’s the half life of test suspension? suspension is just test without any ester attached, correct?

does test suspension cause pain after injecting? I feel like I’ve heard this

No pain. There is no half life cus the crystals dissolve. No ester. The only study on length is the horse one.

 

[Gman86]

Also, how are u getting away with sometimes injecting test suspension EOD? Isn’t the half life way too short for that? I know guys that can’t even inject test prop EOD, due to the half life being too short

 

[Gman86]

Where do u live btw? Where are u getting pharma and vet grade test suspension?

and u don’t feel and highs and lows with the half life being so short, or according to what ur saying there being no half life at all

 

[madman]

I have had the best success with test suspension for trt. 10 mg every day or EOD. micronized that goes thru a 27g insulin. Sq or I'm depends on the day. Has anyone else tried it? I personally think it's the best protocol with the least side effects if dosed low. Tried pharma suspension testoviron and ugl. Most ugly is not properly dosed. A few I've tried are good tho. Tried vet grade and it is not micronized so impossible to go thru a 27g. What I notice is next to no estrogen issues so no AI needed, stronger, leaner, no bloating, less ball shrinkage better body comp. 10 mg or 70 a week I look better than 200mg test e or c . More energy and skin is tighter like it's GH.

Would be extremely rare when it comes to TRT!

10 mg TS daily is 70 mg active T (no ester)

Would not consider that a low weekly dose.

100 mg TC (esterified T) = 70 mg active T (no ester)

Some men can hit a high trough TT/FT level on 100 mg TC especially when split into more frequent injections.

10 mg TS EOD is 35 mg active T (no ester)

50mg TC (esterified T) = 35 mg active T (no ester)

Now we are talking!

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Thank you all for the responses. Even though my FT is mid-range and TT is high, I would be considered over dosed? You have no idea where your FT level truly sat as I highly doubt it was tested using an accurate assay. With a whopping TT 1420 ng/dL even with your high SHBG 53.4 nmol/L I would...

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FIGURE 1 | Percent change in mean gonadotropin levels (LH & FSH), from baseline through 6 months of testosterone treatment. Nasal testosterone (blue), dosed t.i.d., adapted from (15), n = 33. Topical testosterone (orange), dosed daily, adapted from (9), n = 123. IM injectable - 100 mg...

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[madman]

I have had the best success with test suspension for trt. 10 mg every day or EOD. micronized that goes thru a 27g insulin. Sq or I'm depends on the day. Has anyone else tried it? I personally think it's the best protocol with the least side effects if dosed low. Tried pharma suspension testoviron and ugl. Most ugly is not properly dosed. A few I've tried are good tho. Tried vet grade and it is not micronized so impossible to go thru a 27g. What I notice is next to no estrogen issues so no AI needed, stronger, leaner, no bloating, less ball shrinkage better body comp. 10 mg or 70 a week I look better than 200mg test e or c . More energy and skin is tighter like it's GH.

That would be due to less bloat/water retention let alone the weekly dose of androgens used.

200 mg TC or TE injected weekly would easily result in better strength/muscle mass gains over 70 mg TS when following a proper diet/training protocol.

 

[madman]

I have had the best success with test suspension for trt. 10 mg every day or EOD. micronized that goes thru a 27g insulin. Sq or I'm depends on the day. Has anyone else tried it? I personally think it's the best protocol with the least side effects if dosed low. Tried pharma suspension testoviron and ugl. Most ugly is not properly dosed. A few I've tried are good tho. Tried vet grade and it is not micronized so impossible to go thru a 27g. What I notice is next to no estrogen issues so no AI needed, stronger, leaner, no bloating, less ball shrinkage better body comp. 10 mg or 70 a week I look better than 200mg test e or c . More energy and skin is tighter like it's GH.

Guess you finally realized that the 20 mg TS daily was overkill!

Anyone tried testosterone base (no ester)?

But is there something special about doing it three times with the nasal gel? Maybe in the the Natesto product development phase they experimented with different frequencies? Are there any references for the half-life of testosterone in oil? What if it is hours instead of minutes? If so then a...

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[Brian83]

Where do u live btw? Where are u getting pharma and vet grade test suspension?

and u don’t feel and highs and lows with the half life being so short, or according to what ur saying there being no half life at all

Sent you a pm.

 

[tareload]

no half life

Nope. See the thread on test suspension.

 

[tropicaldaze1950]

I have had the best success with test suspension for trt. 10 mg every day or EOD. micronized that goes thru a 27g insulin. Sq or I'm depends on the day. Has anyone else tried it? I personally think it's the best protocol with the least side effects if dosed low. Tried pharma suspension testoviron and ugl. Most ugly is not properly dosed. A few I've tried are good tho. Tried vet grade and it is not micronized so impossible to go thru a 27g. What I notice is next to no estrogen issues so no AI needed, stronger, leaner, no bloating, less ball shrinkage better body comp. 10 mg or 70 a week I look better than 200mg test e or c . More energy and skin is tighter like it's GH.

I know it has to be compounded. What pharmacy? Thanks.

 

[jonj]

BigBen, Thank You for this post, exactly what I have been thinking and wanted to know. To clarify, this means the only reason for an ester is convenience and it is NOT needed for lipophilicity / absorption? I do daily injections with cypionate, however my doctor will not prescribe the suspension, as he says an ester is needed for lipophilicity / absorption.
Would compounding testosterone in EMU OIL (no preservative, no ester, no seed oil carrier) be the equivalent? (EMU is non inflammatory and offers the highest concentration of K2), if not, how does one acquire suspension? Thank You

 

[Bigben]

BigBen, Thank You for this post, exactly what I have been thinking and wanted to know. To clarify, this means the only reason for an ester is convenience and it is NOT needed for lipophilicity / absorption? I do daily injections with cypionate, however my doctor will not prescribe the suspension, as he says an ester is needed for lipophilicity / absorption.
Would compounding testosterone in EMU OIL (no preservative, no ester, no seed oil carrier) be the equivalent? (EMU is non inflammatory and offers the highest concentration of K2), if not, how does one acquire suspension? Thank You

Best so far is Beligas. Aquaviron is impossible to find now.

 

[Bigben]

Back on TS E3D with no issues.

 

[carlweathers]

This is fascinating, thank you.

This might be useful with Deca monotherapy, some more aromatization.

 

[Mastodont]

Back on TS E3D with no issues.

What dose now, IM?

 

[carlweathers]

I have been using Deca Durabolin for monotherapy, 250/wk, a little higher than HRT. I have been chasing highs and lows for too long so test base is out.

Then there is the issue with having enough aromatization, estrogen.

I took 2mg Test Suspension pwo yesterday and wow, it feels as if the body comes alive again from the added estrogen.

Libido and erections were strong, my idea of what HRT should feel like. Mood was elevated, just felt on, alive. My Deca dose is 250/wk, so a little higher than HRT.

I will continue to use as it is micronized and flows through a 29g insulin syringe with ease, a welcome change.

This stuff is fascinating.

 

[MarkLA]

@carlweathers

I'm curious how you do over the longer term... If after a month or two, you're still feeling on and alive.

Do you mix the powder with saline or does it come mixed? Are you using an UGL, or Pharma?

 

[carlweathers]

I am purchasing UGL from a well known lab so potency is not a concern for me, and it is micronized so goes through a 29g no problems.

It is ready made injectable.

I am looking forward to how this plays out, I will be experimenting with dosing moving forward, 1mg at a time.