Question. After looking thru this I could not see anywhere any DHT numbers. Did I miss it? I'm just curious if suspension affects DHT differently than enanthate, cypionate or propionate. Did anyone find this??THERAPY WITH AQUEOUS SUSPENSIONS OF TESTOSTERONE
Abstract. TREATMENT of hypogonadism in males has been carried out with testosterone propionate and with methyl testosterone. The pure steroid, testosteroneacademic.oup.com
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No you didn't miss it. These papers covered very early work before individual metabolites of testosterone were quantified.Question. After looking thru this I could not see anywhere any DHT numbers. Did I miss it? I'm just curious if suspension affects DHT differently than enanthate, cypionate or propionate. Did anyone find this??
Thank you for this. So the DHT rise would be similar to other forms of testosterone basically.No you didn't miss it. These papers covered very early work before individual metabolites of testosterone were quantified.
You could take the pharmacokinetic profile of total ketosteroids above and combine with these data in this link:
Support natural T instead of replacing?
Tintin: My point was to start simple (one medication), check labs, and make adjustments. If there are several variables from the start, it will be practically impossible to get dialed in. Pick T, OR enclomiphene, and proceed from there. For some, enclomiphene is all they need. It matters if you...www.excelmale.com
This work would be in the limit of very fast absorbing pure testosterone. As you can see E2 and DHT lag slightly but follow the qualitative behavior of the TT profile very well. Hence, E2 and DHT profiles will match very well the release rate of testosterone from the test suspension or cleavage from the ester.
The reason I'm asking is for the hair loss. All I could find was this which shows daily sq shit increase was insignificant vs weekly shots. Was just wondering if suspension acts differently.Thank you for this. So the DHT rise would be similar to other forms of testosterone basically.
Could you see if there is any comparison between suspension vs enanthste regarding dht being raised?
Excellent findGoing to do a thread on what is often referred to as TNE (Testosterone No Ester) on here. This preparation would be crystalline testosterone in an aqueous suspension (e.g., Aquaviron). I'll see what I can find on pharmacokinetics as well.
Building off of @madman 's post here:
Advice on low dose daily testosterone
FIGURE 1 | Percent change in mean gonadotropin levels (LH & FSH), from baseline through 6 months of testosterone treatment. Nasal testosterone (blue), dosed t.i.d., adapted from (15), n = 33. Topical testosterone (orange), dosed daily, adapted from (9), n = 123. IM injectable - 100 mg...www.excelmale.com
THERAPEUTIC USE OF TESTOSTERONE IN AQUEOUS SUSPENSION
Abstract. BOTH the male and female sex hormones are customarily dissolved in vegetable oil for the purpose of parenteral therapy. These preparations are wiacademic.oup.com
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Note the use of the term "potency" below. Early days but already good observations on the pharmacokinetics of various T form and solvents.
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Thank you!Excellent find