Test cyp plus HCG - high estradiol

[Lance69]

Following the Crisler Protocol for years and it's worked well.

I do .25cc HCG on Mon Tues, and .5cc T cyp Wed (100mg).

Crisler said he poured over hundreds of labs and found this to be the optimal protocol. My last lab was on Day 6 and E was 42 and T was 580.

I am now bumping up my T to .6cc and reducing my HCG to .2cc to see how I do.

 

[RotnGun]

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I find it interesting that testosterone plays a role in sodium retention. Are there any other articles that talk about this ? I tried doing a search on excelmale, but nothing came up

 

[JCUSN]

Following the Crisler Protocol for years and it's worked well.

I do .25cc HCG on Mon Tues, and .5cc T cyp Wed (100mg).

Crisler said he poured over hundreds of labs and found this to be the optimal protocol. My last lab was on Day 6 and E was 42 and T was 580.

I am now bumping up my T to .6cc and reducing my HCG to .2cc to see how I do.

What is the dose on your HCG? .25cc could be anything depending on how you mixed it.

 

[JCUSN]

like many here, Best Online Pharmacy | Buy Prescription Drugs Online - ReliableRx Pharmacy - around 20-25usd/10k IU depends on maker. been using it for 1+ year. fuck pregnyl and overpriced usa versions

What brands are reliable from this site? I've seen some of these exact brands lab tested showing they are drastically under-dosed.

 

[JmarkH]

What brands are reliable from this site? I've seen some of these exact brands lab tested showing they are drastically under-dosed.

I suspect the likelihood of ID10T errors. "These exact brands" are actual pharmacy brands. There is no reason for them to be "under-dosed." More probable: mixed wrong or not kept cold or more than a month old. . . ReliableRx is a legitimate pharmacy, just in India.

 

[GregHynson]

Don't worry about estradiol because the reference range was established on men NOT on TRT and a total T of 500 or less

 

[GregHynson]

I find it interesting that testosterone plays a role in sodium retention. Are there any other articles that talk about this ? I tried doing a search on excelmale, but nothing came up

I think there may be a ExcelMale Youtube video discussing this

 

[Jerajera]

Don't worry about estradiol because the reference range was established on men NOT on TRT and a total T of 500 or less

Do you have a link to the research on this (not the ExcelMale pamphlet)?

 

[Wilson7]

Wilson, 1056 is high. Wow. Was that number on day one or 5 on your T shot?

Also, how do you do your HCG in the schedule? I do day 1 and 2 HCG shots and day 3 my T shot.

Are you having high hematocrit issues?

No E2 Sx. I don't vary the HCG schedule, M and R regardless of when the TC/TP shot falls. Last total T with this same protocol was 850ish. I don't micro manage T or E2, even when I did, it made no difference. Labs on Day 4 after a shot. Total T ranges between 700 - 1200. Have had HCT issues for decades, even one tube of testim caused problems and did little relative to how I felt and didn't get T much past 500. I don't have free T measured, it can be easily calculated by knowing SHBG, albumin and total T and is within 5% of dialysis measured free.

 

[Lance69]

What is the dose on your HCG? .25cc could be anything depending on how you mixed it.

250 iu. That's from the 10ml mix of Pregnyl.