Should I Inject Every 10 Days?

[TRTME]

Hey everyone, just got labs done on my trough day after 6 weeks of 100mg per week of test cyp.
Total test: 775
Free 19.6
Estradiol 34.1 (not sensitive assay)
So far I'm feeling good and having some positive effects but my doctor wants me to change my injections to every 10 days instead of every week. She said my levels were a bit high for my trough day. Not sure if she's just being overly cautious or what. Any thoughts on what a good trough day level should be? Thanks in advance!

 

[CoastWatcher]

Hey everyone, just got labs done on my trough day after 6 weeks of 100mg per week of test cyp.
Total test: 775
Free 19.6
Estradiol 34.1 (not sensitive assay)
So far I'm feeling good and having some positive effects but my doctor wants me to change my injections to every 10 days instead of every week. She said my levels were a bit high for my trough day. Not sure if she's just being overly cautious or what. Any thoughts on what a good trough day level should be? Thanks in advance!

Your levels are just fine, IF your symptoms have resolved. Don't chase a number while your doctor runs from a number. She suffers from "androgen anxiety" and you're looking for for a particular place to land. Ten days between injections...no way that will work.

 

[TRTME]

Well things are definitely improving but I guess I'll at least try every 10 days for 4-6 weeks (as recommended) and see what happens. I was just curious if anyone on here does every 10 days successfully on TRT. I know most people are once a week and even some every 3.5 days. Does anyone know how much lower it will drop from every 7 days to 10 days?

 

[Vince]

Personally I think your numbers may be too low already, I would prefer to inject every three and a half days compared to every 10 days or even weekly. Your doctor definitely does not understand trt, she's causing too big of high and too low of low.

 

[TRTME]

Personally I think your numbers may be too low already, I would prefer to inject every three and a half days compared to every 10 days or even weekly. Your doctor definitely does not understand trt, she's causing too big of high and too low of low.

She actually has me a bit confused because she's never worried about me being at the top end of the range before when I was on HCG mono.

 

[user_joe]

So you are feeling good and only seeing positive effects. How can any intelligent person think the best course of action is to effectively lower the dose in the worst possible method?

Don't change a thing, and tell her you need the sensitive e2 test. Another 6 weeks, and then you would consider a change, which is likely to be more frequent injections. You'll regret trusting s doc like this.

 

[Vince Carter]

I agree with CoastWatcher, 100%.

 

[Vince Carter]

Well things are definitely improving but I guess I'll at least try every 10 days for 4-6 weeks (as recommended) and see what happens. I was just curious if anyone on here does every 10 days successfully on TRT. I know most people are once a week and even some every 3.5 days. Does anyone know how much lower it will drop from every 7 days to 10 days?

TRT just doesn't work this way and you will be disappointed.

 

[TRTME]

I agree with CoastWatcher, 100%.

I did ask about switching to twice a week injections or just keeping it the same and retesting but she insisted on going to 10 days.

 

[CoastWatcher]

I did ask about switching to twice a week injections or just keeping it the same and retesting but she insisted on going to 10 days.

It's time to find care elsewhere. You will be feeling hypogonadal at the end of the 10 days.

 

[TRTME]

It's time to find care elsewhere. You will be feeling hypogonadal at the end of the 10 days.

Yeah I don't doubt it, if I really start feeling bad and she's not willing to make adjustments I will definitely find someone else. But in the past when I was on HCG mono she was always open to adjustments. I was just really curious to know if anyone on here felt alright with injections every 10 days.

 

[HarryCat]

What's your SHBG? If your a low SHBG guy you will definitely be miserable on an every 10 day protocol. If mid to high you may be able to ride through without too much discomfort.

 

[TRTME]

What's your SHBG? If your a low SHBG guy you will definitely be miserable on an every 10 day protocol. If mid to high you may be able to ride through without too much discomfort.

You know with everything she has checked, she never checks SHBG.

 

[CoastWatcher]

You know with everything she has checked, she never checks SHBG.

SHBG isn't simply a "nice to have" value. Without it, you and your doctor are guessing as to your protocol in terms of amount and frequency. You are not being well cared for.

 

[TRTME]

SHBG isn't simply a "nice to have" value. Without it, you and your doctor are guessing as to your protocol in terms of amount and frequency. You are not being well cared for.

Thanks for the info I'll see if the doctor will test for SHBG for my next labs.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Thanks for the info I'll see if the doctor will test for SHBG for my next labs.

If you wish, you can pull your own labs (at an affordable price) via www.discountedlabs.com. All lab work is performed by LabCorp.

 

[Vettester Chris]

Your SHBG will probably be in the 25 to 30nmol/L range by reverse calculating the free testosterone and total serum. Your numbers are really good, and you feel really good, but doctor says "change". I agree, make a change, meaning change the doctor! She probably read an anti-androgen medical article, promoted by people that would rather provide anti-depressants instead (?) ... Who knows?? Treat the patient, not the number!

 

[TRTME]

If you wish, you can pull your own labs (at an affordable price) via www.discountedlabs.com. All lab work is performed by LabCorp.

I'll definitely consider it if the doctor isn't willing to pull SHBG. I'll keep you all updated, I'm on day 8 of my first week of every 10 days. Yesterday I felt great, plenty of energy, especially in the gym. Had trouble falling asleep last night though, probably reading too many forum posts before bed lol. But that's unusual because I normally fall asleep no problem.

 

[TRTME]

Found a good Doctor finally! He advised against injections every 10 days, for now I'm going to split the dose and inject every 3.5 days and retest. New labs will include SHGB and he was able to explain why we should check it.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Found a good Doctor finally! He advised against injections every 10 days, for now I'm going to split the dose and inject every 3.5 days and retest. New labs will include SHGB and he was able to explain why we should check it.

You've taken a significant step in the right direction with your new doctor.