Recent labs, not feeling well
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That's a really informative suggestion...
Driven Mad
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Would a good test be to try a grape seed oil formulation from a compounding pharmacy?
It would seem that allergies to cottonseed oil are rare but well documented. Those that do react, react badly.
Driven Mad
It would seem that allergies to cottonseed oil are rare but well documented. Those that do react, react badly.
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I have an appointment on Monday with my urologist to discuss going back on topical. It’s really all I know to do at this point. The people I’ve dealt with at Defy are nice, but having no link whatsoever to your physician sucks to be honest. With my urologist or primary care doctor, I can ask a question thru the patient portal and have an answer from my doctor that day. The quickest I can even see Dr Saya is in June and for someone that is having bad issues with the prescribed protocol, this isn’t good. I supposed the system they use works well for patients cruising along and feeling great, but for someone having problems it’s no good. I feel I’m in a spot that I’m going to have to choose my own treatment, sort of like being in a round room looking for the corner.
See if you can schedule an appointment with Dr. Calkins, I would bet you can see him sooner. He is treating me for my high Reverse T3 caused by low ferritin/iron from frequent blood donations and a terrible sinus/flu infection in January. He only ran 4 test that I got a script for, took to LabCorp and my insurance covered. Here is what he ran and results done on 2/16/18.
Thyroxine (T-4) 7.6 ug/dl (4.2-13.0)
Free T4 .097 ng/dl (.8 - 1.7)
Reverse T3 28.1 ng/dl (9.2 - 24.1) He said during consult needs to be below 15.
Triiodothydronine Free (T3) 3.6 pg/ml (2.0 - 4.4)
Ratio of RT3/T3 is 12.8 and needs to be over 20.
Prescribed T3 medicine I got from Walgreens, Liothyronine 5mcg 90 tablets and said to take 1 in am 30 minutes before food and 1 in pm 30 min before food and go up to 2 each time if not feeling better in couple weeks. Currently on 2 in am and 2 in pm and I can tell a big difference on how I feel.
Had a quick Thyroid blood test done thru Discount Labs on 4/10 and my RT3 is down to 20.4 so, has dropped 8 points in 7 weeks...
You cannot depend on Medical School MD'S to know all of this which is why Defy and Primebody, sponsors of this site are doing so well in medicating a multitude of symptoms and causes that are not taught in med schools.
Low testosterone symptoms and hypothyroidism symptoms are very much related and alike. Here is a good source:
https://www.restartmed.com/thyroid-symptoms-men/
Too many times its not testosterone it is the thyroid. That's why I think a full thyroid panel should be pulled with any one complaining of low testosterone prior to starting any treatment. A person could very easily have both. Can save a lot of time and suffering!
P.S. I would advise you to have an Iron/Ferritin panel done at same time to see if it could be causing your symptoms and hypothyroidism.
Thyroxine (T-4) 7.6 ug/dl (4.2-13.0)
Free T4 .097 ng/dl (.8 - 1.7)
Reverse T3 28.1 ng/dl (9.2 - 24.1) He said during consult needs to be below 15.
Triiodothydronine Free (T3) 3.6 pg/ml (2.0 - 4.4)
Ratio of RT3/T3 is 12.8 and needs to be over 20.
Prescribed T3 medicine I got from Walgreens, Liothyronine 5mcg 90 tablets and said to take 1 in am 30 minutes before food and 1 in pm 30 min before food and go up to 2 each time if not feeling better in couple weeks. Currently on 2 in am and 2 in pm and I can tell a big difference on how I feel.
Had a quick Thyroid blood test done thru Discount Labs on 4/10 and my RT3 is down to 20.4 so, has dropped 8 points in 7 weeks...
You cannot depend on Medical School MD'S to know all of this which is why Defy and Primebody, sponsors of this site are doing so well in medicating a multitude of symptoms and causes that are not taught in med schools.
Low testosterone symptoms and hypothyroidism symptoms are very much related and alike. Here is a good source:
https://www.restartmed.com/thyroid-symptoms-men/
Too many times its not testosterone it is the thyroid. That's why I think a full thyroid panel should be pulled with any one complaining of low testosterone prior to starting any treatment. A person could very easily have both. Can save a lot of time and suffering!
P.S. I would advise you to have an Iron/Ferritin panel done at same time to see if it could be causing your symptoms and hypothyroidism.
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I’ve tested DHT a few times and it’s normally top of range when t levels are over 1000ng
Dr. Calkins is well up
Into May. I’ve never donated blood so not sure I would be low in ferritin. I’ve had several full thyroid labs done in the past and all levels were normal. TSH has risen from 2.0 to 2.3 over the last year and that’s the only thing that’s changed. I might call Defy again Monday and see if there’s any way of getting some advice prior to an appointment. Waiting 6-7 weeks at this point isn’t an option feeling as bad as I do. Everyone always says how well Dr Saya is and I’d like to have a consult with him if possible.
Into May. I’ve never donated blood so not sure I would be low in ferritin. I’ve had several full thyroid labs done in the past and all levels were normal. TSH has risen from 2.0 to 2.3 over the last year and that’s the only thing that’s changed. I might call Defy again Monday and see if there’s any way of getting some advice prior to an appointment. Waiting 6-7 weeks at this point isn’t an option feeling as bad as I do. Everyone always says how well Dr Saya is and I’d like to have a consult with him if possible.
Vince
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1Draw, are you presently on any type of thyroid Med besides cytomel. I'm taking thyroid Armour, but was considering asking my lipidology as if I could take cytomel and just drop the Armour.
Vince
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I wouldn't change my protocol, without first having a consultation with my try doctor. Do something wrong with suggesting a change, but I wouldn't make it without proper labs and the okay.
Vince
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I wouldn't change my protocol, without first having a consultation with my try doctor. There is nothing wrong with suggesting changes, but I wouldn't make it without proper labs and the okay.
Vince
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1Draw, I'm on Armor for hypothyroidism. My levels are never just right, my t3 is always low, I'm considering just trying cytomel maybe a protocol similar to yours. If my lipidology won't give me a script, I may just buy it from a India Pharmacy. I could just run my labs for my thyroid through discount labs.
Here is a good explanation of high Reverse T3 - symptoms, causes and how to treat it. Not all causes are iron related so, you can go thru this and see if you can identify a cause.
https://www.restartmed.com/reverse-t3/
Another excellent source on the RT3....https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/reverse-t3/
Vince
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1Draw, great information about reverse T3. There's a 25 minute video I'm going to listen to. Thanks again buddy.
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