Primobolan/Tren HRT No Test

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The other day I came across a YouTube video of this guy who, as an experiment, ran primobolan with no test and he was running .15mg of estradiol valerate EOD to make sure he was getting enough estrogen. I am trying to find it again, but have not been able to. Does anybody know what I am talking about? Do people run primobolan as an HRT while injecting estradiol valerate? He said that he was able push his libido to supraphysiological levels and that was the reason why he was running it. If I knew were it was, I would share it here.
 
The other day I came across a YouTube video of this guy who, as an experiment, ran primobolan with no test and he was running .15mg of estradiol valerate EOD to make sure he was getting enough estrogen. I am trying to find it again, but have not been able to. Does anybody know what I am talking about? Do people run primobolan as an HRT while injecting estradiol valerate? He said that he was able push his libido to supraphysiological levels and that was the reason why he was running it. If I knew were it was, I would share it here.
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The other day I came across a YouTube video of this guy who, as an experiment, ran primobolan with no test and he was running .15mg of estradiol valerate EOD to make sure he was getting enough estrogen. I am trying to find it again, but have not been able to. Does anybody know what I am talking about? Do people run primobolan as an HRT while injecting estradiol valerate? He said that he was able push his libido to supraphysiological levels and that was the reason why he was running it. If I knew were it was, I would share it here.

Just to be clear here this is a men's health/HRT forum!

Tren let alone primo never have and never will play any part in HRT!

Kidding yourself here if you think some generic frankenstein protocol is going to have your libido raging 24/7.

Other than nandrolone which is used in therapeutic doses for relief/improvement of joint pain or oxandrolone which may be prescribed for the same reason as both are legal compounds.

The only way one can obtain tren or primo is through a UGL source.

No doctor can legally prescribe such!

No AAS would be a testosterone substitution.

The main reason testosterone is used for replacement therapy over nandrolone let alone any other AAS is that testosterone drugs provide a hormone that is already produced in the body.

More importantly, its metabolites estradiol and DHT are needed in healthy amounts to experience the full spectrum of testosterone-beneficial effects on (cardiovascular health, brain health, libido, erectile function, bone health, tendon health, immune system, lipids, and body composition).


*Natural testosterone is viewed as the best androgen for substitution in hypogonadal men. The reason behind the selection is that testosterone can be converted to DHT and E2, thus developing the full spectrum of testosterone activities in long-term substitution

*Preparations of native testosterone or its esters (aromatizable T) should be used for TTh
 
The main reason testosterone is used for replacement therapy over nandrolone let alone any other AAS is that testosterone drugs provide a hormone that is already produced in the body.

More importantly, its metabolites estradiol and DHT are needed in healthy amounts to experience the full spectrum of testosterone-beneficial effects on (cardiovascular health, brain health, libido, erectile function, bone health, tendon health, immune system, lipids, and body composition).


*Natural testosterone is viewed as the best androgen for substitution in hypogonadal men. The reason behind the selection is that testosterone can be converted to DHT and E2, thus developing the full spectrum of testosterone activities in long-term substitution

*Preparations of native testosterone or its esters (aromatizable T) should be used for TTh




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Here's a video that talks about the pros and cons of adding Primo to your TRT protocol

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and another sort of related one about adding Masteron

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Both drugs are not legally available in the US

 
In the comments of cortex’s video there’s a few guys doing great on a primo base and some estradiol valerate. Interesting stuff. First time hearing guys consistently doing well on a dht base with some exogenous estrogen. Very curious to see how guys do long term on protocols like this. Really exciting to see guys branch out and experiment with things outside of the norm and get great results
 
In the comments of cortex’s video there’s a few guys doing great on a primo base and some estradiol valerate. Interesting stuff. First time hearing guys consistently doing well on a dht base with some exogenous estrogen. Very curious to see how guys do long term on protocols like this. Really exciting to see guys branch out and experiment with things outside of the norm and get great results
It's very interesting
I just can't see tren being good for this I have never seen people with good long term blood work using it even at a micro dose
 
It's also worth noting that Tren and Primo both apparently have a very pronounced anti-libido/EQ affect in some people. It's especially unfortunate as Tren is one of the very few compounds that help resolve PE for some people, although I think Nandrolone may as well.
 
It's also worth noting that Tren and Primo both apparently have a very pronounced anti-libido/EQ affect in some people. It's especially unfortunate as Tren is one of the very few compounds that help resolve PE for some people, although I think Nandrolone may as well.
Maybe without test and keeping levels of e2 stable primo won't have that affect
I personally just wouldn't use tren ever due to what is can do to the mind
 
It's also worth noting that Tren and Primo both apparently have a very pronounced anti-libido/EQ affect in some people. It's especially unfortunate as Tren is one of the very few compounds that help resolve PE for some people, although I think Nandrolone may as well.
That could be due to simply taking estradiol too low with the AI effect. If that's the case, you can supplement your way out of that with injectable estradiol.

I'm really interested to see the outcomes of these protocols, because they will shed light on key questions, like what is the importance of locally produced estradiol by aromatase versus systemic / serum estradiol. If you can be healthy and feel great running on purely external estradiol, with no aromatase-driven local tissue estradiol production, that would be a devastating blow to the "ignore serum E2 as meaningless" crowd.

Or, maybe you would have endothelial dysfunction, deteriorating neurological health, joint pain, and other consequences on this protocol with the disabled aromatase. But then, how do women survive and thrive when their primary source of estradiol to support tissue health is circulating estradiol from ovarian production?

So many questions. Let loose these brave pioneers into the frontier and await their findings.
 

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