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[Hai Bodong]

Before, because even the hCG will supress LH and FSH. Right now there is nothing suppressing your fertility.

Damn. Nothing in this life is easy. If your fertility is suppressed by HCG too, then by all means better go for TRT+HCG. Get the full stack.

 

[Systemlord]

If your fertility is suppressed by HCG too, then by all means better go for TRT+HCG. Get the full stack.

You mean TRT, hCG and FSH.

 

[Hai Bodong]

You mean TRT, hCG and FSH.

How do you supplement FSH?

 

[Systemlord]

How do you supplement FSH?

By injecting FSH, but you'll need a prescription from a doctor. This isn't something you can get in a supplement store like GNC.

 

[Simbarn]

Oh yes. When I signed up with my clinic they ordered labs, then I had a consult. 8 weeks later I had labs and a change in dosage. 8 weeks later another set of labs. That was July and I'll run a new set the first week of March. I'm feeling great and growing stronger in mind and body all the time.

I am curious JmarkH, have you had labs done of your LH and FSH whilst taking that relatively high dose of enclomiphene combined with hCG? I am wondering how successful this is with keeping your HPTA active, with the combined suppression of the hCG?

 

[Simbarn]

The attached shows the before as "Previous" and after 8 weeks of protocol.

Sorry I just saw this! Its a pity they do not have your previous LH and FSH result on those labs, or did they not test them? However, your gonadotropins do seem to be at quite healthy levels!

 

[JmarkH]

These are the labs from July 2022 with previous from April 2022.
FSH and LH
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
LH ⁰¹ 8.2 6.7 04/22/2022 mIU/mL 1.7-8.6
FSH ⁰¹ 7.9 7.1 04/22/2022 mIU/mL 1.5-12.4

Testosterone,Free and Total
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Testosterone ⁰¹ 956 High 751 04/22/2022 ng/dL 264-916
Free Testosterone(Direct) ⁰² 17.3 13.5 04/22/2022 pg/mL 6.6-18.1

DHEA-Sulfate
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
DHEA-Sulfate ⁰¹ 330.0 96.5 04/22/2022 ug/dL 48.9-344.2

Prolactin
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Prolactin ⁰¹ 3.6 Low 4.1 04/22/2022 ng/mL 4.0-15.2

Estradiol
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Estradiol ⁰¹ 38.4 21.2 04/22/2022 pg/mL 7.6-42.6
Roche ECLIA methodology

IGF-1
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I ⁰² 65 71 04/22/2022 ng/mL 64-240

Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Sex Horm Binding Glob,
Serum ⁰¹ 48.2 43.9 04/22/2022 nmol/L 19.3-76.4

 

[Hai Bodong]

These are the labs from July 2022 with previous from April 2022.
FSH and LH
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
LH ⁰¹ 8.2 6.7 04/22/2022 mIU/mL 1.7-8.6
FSH ⁰¹ 7.9 7.1 04/22/2022 mIU/mL 1.5-12.4

Testosterone,Free and Total
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Testosterone ⁰¹ 956 High 751 04/22/2022 ng/dL 264-916
Free Testosterone(Direct) ⁰² 17.3 13.5 04/22/2022 pg/mL 6.6-18.1

DHEA-Sulfate
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
DHEA-Sulfate ⁰¹ 330.0 96.5 04/22/2022 ug/dL 48.9-344.2

Prolactin
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Prolactin ⁰¹ 3.6 Low 4.1 04/22/2022 ng/mL 4.0-15.2

Estradiol
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Estradiol ⁰¹ 38.4 21.2 04/22/2022 pg/mL 7.6-42.6
Roche ECLIA methodology

IGF-1
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I ⁰² 65 71 04/22/2022 ng/mL 64-240

Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum
Test Current Result and Flag Previous Result and Date Units Reference Interval
Sex Horm Binding Glob,
Serum ⁰¹ 48.2 43.9 04/22/2022 nmol/L 19.3-76.4

More than triple my E2.

 

[Hai Bodong]

By injecting FSH, but you'll need a prescription from a doctor. This isn't something you can get in a supplement store like GNC.

I think I read it on the FB group but can you verify whether a low E2 symptom is severe lack of human emotions?

 

[JmarkH]

Why, are you having cat emotions? I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
Are your emotions different from what you are used to having? Personally, I don't like having kneejerk reactions so slow emotions work for me.

 

[Hai Bodong]

Why, are you having cat emotions? I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
Are your emotions different from what you are used to having? Personally, I don't like having kneejerk reactions so slow emotions work for me.

What does cat emotions mean? I have notice over the years that I have extremely robotic. Very few normal emotions I feel on a daily basis.

If I remember the comment, they said that on high E2 you cry at puppy videos and on low E2 you feel nothing in general.

 

[Systemlord]

I have notice over the years that I have extremely robotic. Very few normal emotions I feel on a daily basis.

There are some who feel emotionally blunted on TRT.

 

[JmarkH]

What does cat emotions mean?

It doesn't mean anything. You said lack of human emotions, so I went with a random ambivalent animal.

 

[Hai Bodong]

There are some who feel emotionally blunted on TRT.

Do you think icariin would have any point?

 

[zancek0]

Hey, have you managed to find a protocol of any kind that suits you?

 

[Hai Bodong]

I will try HCG monotherapy and see how it goes.

 

[jayt]

Thank you friend for your input.

In your experience, could this level of oestrogen be the source of my blight?

Regarding memory, last year and this year have been terrible. I work and within minutes i forgot where the tools are. If you ask me something to do and I do not do it instantly, it is gone from my brain. If I have to do something and something else interrupts me, I have forgotten the original thing super fast.

Man I would go to a real Urologist..... he will check your T; prescribe your meds and monitor your blood. I see mine 4 times a year and do TRT; trimix; Cialis; and anostogoli. I am 73 and feel better than I did at 40, fuck better too.

 

[Hai Bodong]

Man I would go to a real Urologist..... he will check your T; prescribe your meds and monitor your blood. I see mine 4 times a year and do TRT; trimix; Cialis; and anostogoli. I am 73 and feel better than I did at 40, fuck better too.

I went to a TRT clinic. My T is ok-ish but my E2 is lowest normal. They don't perceive it as an issue at all, even though i have explained my issues.

 

[Hai Bodong]

@Systemlord How do you come back from hcg monotherapy? Just tapering?

 

[jayt]

I went to a TRT clinic. My T is ok-ish but my E2 is lowest normal. They don't perceive it as an issue at all, even though i have explained my issues.

a TRT Clinic.... you are paying double and results inferior. go to a Urologist