Huge increase in libido with DIM

[Raaj]

SHBG was 50.
The problem here is doctors in Pune India do not understand how to manage male hormones
They are saying my TT is 378 is in range. Then I asked them the Normal Value is 700 for any age. Also asked them I have TT to E ratio has gone tossed up. I asked them I should be sitting up at 900 to 1000 everyday with estradiol in range 21-30. Then they said me loose weight. I am weighing currently 75 kg without lots of muscle and no lean body. I told them without testoreone hormone I am not able to loose weight as testoreone makes you sweat and loose fat.
One doctor prescribed me cypionate 250 for 4 weeks. I said to him this is wrong protocol and I should be injecting e3d and minimum of 100mg per week for first 6 weeks. Then they said who is the doctor. Then I asked them how you control my estradiol. They were clueless and prescribed me Novaldex. I said them to them I do not want to use that. Then they said start self injecting how you feel based on that. Then I asked them Testoreone will control your stamina and estradiol will control your premature ejaculation.
Now I am on my way to start self TRT with the prescription with my GP

 

[WhatSayYou89]

What was your E2 at before using anastrozole, and what was your anastrozole dose and frequency at which you took it? Just curious. And your SHBG level if you have it.

My overall labs should look much different since I have lowered my dosage after getting this but here they are for reference.

E2 was at 55.6 before I took the 0.125mg & 49.2 while taking it.

Again these are on a higher dose of test so I imagine my e2 levels are in their 30s with this lower dose.

Haven’t done new labs since starting this new dosages. Will probably redo them in 3 weeks.

You actually commented on my previous post discussing my previous labwork.

3/4 Month Lab Results..wtf happened?

 

[WhatSayYou89]

Yeah that is the only one I've tried. I need to try some others. I put the DIM plus on my list.

This one looks good. Has both DIM & calcium D

https://www.naturalhealthyconcepts....MI_YTWq_Gf3wIVF8DICh1O0g8kEAQYASABEgJ-JfD_BwE

 

[Tommy Wall]

I ordered these https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0755FKYP2/ref=pe_3044161_185740101_TE_item
Good price and I hope they are good.

 

[DragonRider]

not claiming libido assistance, but Myomin (a Chinese herb blend) has been a VERY effective E blocker for me. almost works too well. my T doc recommended it. i actually don't need to take it regularly...but take now and again in the event things get a little soft.

I tried this due to issues I have experienced with AI's. After 3 months my estrogen tested at 51.8 pg/mL. Needless to say, things don't work when my E is at that level.

 

[M.J]

I think as with ginseng 6000, DIM could be lowering E and with time this increase in libido could be gone, I experimented with ginseng 6000 life plane I went from 20 pg estrogen to 9 pg in 40 days, the interesting part is when I reached 15/16 pg I had increase in libido which disappeared as I went lower.

ginseng lowered estrogen and increased prolactin,,,back then my T was 11 nmol/l.
So T=11 nmol/l E=15 pg

I guess playing around with E does increase libido, I read also increasing t dosage suddenly/ skipping an injection does increase libido ??? maybe the issue is E moving during that time ( like what happened with ginseng) and as it moves it causes increase in libido?

 

[JohnsonC]

DIM made be feel very dull and gave me ringing ears. This was within just 36 hours of starting it. It must have tanked my estrogen. Thorne research brand. I stopped taking it after a few days. But I will keep it in my cabinet if I ever get estrogen-issues when I start TRT. I took calcium d-glucarate at the same time. Maybe the combo was too effective. I don't have high estrogen anyway.

 

[WhatSayYou89]

I started taking DIM (2 capsules a day - DIM plus from Nature’s way) and my libido went through the roof (it was already good before starting DIM). So i stopped and resumed a few times to see if it was the DIM responsible for the boost in libido and it seems like it is.
So if you have your lab work looking great but no libido maybe something to try.

Did it take awhile for the libido effects to begin? Like did it take time for it to build up in your system?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Libido and pain have very strong placebo components. Most things people take expecting those two benefits work for a few days before the placebo effect wears off.

 

[Gman86]

Libido and pain have very strong placebo components. Most things people take expecting those two benefits work for a few days before the placebo effect wears off.

Quick random question. Are you still using HCG Nelson?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Quick random question. Are you still using HCG Nelson?

Yes, without it I am asexual.

 

[Gman86]

Yes, without it I am asexual.

Thanks Nelson. On the cream my libido is definitely much lower than when I was on injections. T levels are high. I think either my E2 is too low, or it’s opposed by my high DHT too much, and limiting its effects. I need high E2 for good libido. I’m thinking that adding HCG back in might help. Gonna give it a shot and see what happens

So without HCG your libido tanks? Are your erections not as strong as well, or does your libido just take a dive without the HCG?

 

[HealthMan]

Did it take awhile for the libido effects to begin? Like did it take time for it to build up in your system?

It was pretty fast after start taking it. For me estradiol is what really affects libido. It needs to be at an exact spot. Not too low not too high.

 

[M.J]

It was pretty fast after start taking it. For me estradiol is what really affects libido. It needs to be at an exact spot. Not too low not too high.

I have noticed the same thing. But again I think testosterone swing also plays a rule. Do you inject once weekly ?

 

[TorontoTRT]

3000 mg of CDG seems to work well on clearing my acne with no new breakouts.

 

[3percent]

I started taking DIM (2 capsules a day - DIM plus from Nature’s way) and my libido went through the roof (it was already good before starting DIM). So i stopped and resumed a few times to see if it was the DIM responsible for the boost in libido and it seems like it is.
So if you have your lab work looking great but no libido maybe something to try.

@HealthMan

Did you take capsules at once or did you split them throughout the day?

did you test your estrogen before/after dim?

 

[grimcontango]

I started taking DIM (2 capsules a day - DIM plus from Nature’s way) and my libido went through the roof (it was already good before starting DIM). So i stopped and resumed a few times to see if it was the DIM responsible for the boost in libido and it seems like it is.
So if you have your lab work looking great but no libido maybe something to try.

I know this is an old thread, but I’m actually experiencing the same effect. I’m wondering what you and I have in common, HealthMan.

I’m taking 500mg DIM split into two doses and I’m on 7mg/day of Test Cyp Subq with low SHBG. I’ve always had an issue with E2 building up regardless of injection frequency/dosage. So I’d have a 3 day honeymoon of raging libido each week, to be met with a very shrunken and numb flaccid state usually by the third day. I skip a shot and then I feel better until I get the feeling that my T dips too low and the cycle starts again.

Based on bloods, I have a very low margin E2 wise where I feel good and if I have any alcohol at all, my E2 can spike by quite a high %. I’m not much of a drinker though.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I’m taking 500mg DIM split into two doses

What brand are you taking? Thanks

 

[grimcontango]

What brand are you taking? Thanks

I’m using Purest Vantage 250mg caps from Amazon, not a brand I’ve used for anything else prior but was just convenient at the time.

On a separate note, I find a big difference between subq injections in my abdomen vs my upper thigh. My abdomen seems to have far poorer absorption by comparison.

 

[grimcontango]

So a few weeks ago, I started on Raloxifene 60mg / ed for my teen gyno which I’m planning to have removed this year. What is interesting is that it seems that the suppression or effect of the SERM on the gyno tissue is helping my overall E2 balance symptom wise. I’m going to do bloods next week to see what’s what.

I’ve seen various studies, mostly in females that state there is more active local aromatisation in breast tissue and in the adipose around it so I theorise that this perhaps is the reason why I needed to go on TRT in the first place (due to the negative feedback loop with LH) and why I have a hypersensitivity to exogenous Testosterone. Particularly long esters.
To put it simply, I think gyno is my problem in that it is actively aromatising more than regular tissue. Not low SHBG.

Hope this info is useful to anyone with similar physiology.