How many of you are on thyroid meds?
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I am taking Cytomel (T3) at 10mcg/day (5mcg early morning and 5mcg early afternoon). Started due to lowish T3 and over-range rT3.
This amount improves how I feel without significantly suppressing my endogenous production by any significant amount. My rT3 has come well into range and my TSH and T4 have slightly lowered but are still at good levels.
This amount improves how I feel without significantly suppressing my endogenous production by any significant amount. My rT3 has come well into range and my TSH and T4 have slightly lowered but are still at good levels.
Thanks for your reply. Could you share your pre and post levels with me? And improved in what way, something like brain fog?
The improvement was in better sleep, reduction in joint pain, improvement of brain fog, more tolerance to temperature variations and much better digestion/motility.
--------------BEFORE CYTOMEL--------------RANGE--------------AFTER
TSH-------------------1.55-------------------.32 - 4.0 mIU/L------------0.8
FT3--------------------2.9--------------------3.1 - 6.2 pmol/L-----------3.7
FT4---------------------15----------------------9 - 19 pmol/L------------12
rT3---------------------29----------------------8 - 25 ng/dL--------------17
I have only tested before taking my first T3 dose for the day so I haven't seen what the T3 peak level was (will be testing after the first dose soon to determine that), and since it has a short half life the number above is likely significantly lower than peak, the number above would essentially be the trough level.
--------------BEFORE CYTOMEL--------------RANGE--------------AFTER
TSH-------------------1.55-------------------.32 - 4.0 mIU/L------------0.8
FT3--------------------2.9--------------------3.1 - 6.2 pmol/L-----------3.7
FT4---------------------15----------------------9 - 19 pmol/L------------12
rT3---------------------29----------------------8 - 25 ng/dL--------------17
I have only tested before taking my first T3 dose for the day so I haven't seen what the T3 peak level was (will be testing after the first dose soon to determine that), and since it has a short half life the number above is likely significantly lower than peak, the number above would essentially be the trough level.
Interesting, I need improvements in all those areas. Get cold really easily but also can get way too warm. Sleep severely disrupted, bad brain fog and bad digestion.
Was about to remark on the level.. isn't there an extended release T3 available? I suppose this is working well for you though.
Edit: Do you mind elaborating on your digestive symptoms a bit?
Vince
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I am also on thyroid meds. My main reason is to improve by cholesterol panel.
By present protocol is, 90 mg of thyroid armor and 6.25 mcg of Cytomel twice a day.
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By present protocol is, 90 mg of thyroid armor and 6.25 mcg of Cytomel twice a day.
can cytomel by itself be used to treat hypothyroidism
I'm just wondering if anyone uses just Cytomel (Liothyronine) to treat their hypothyroidism?
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Sean Mosher
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Personally am on 1grain of Armour twice daily plus 10mcg T3 twice daily.
I don't remember my initial lab work from a few years back, but TSH wasn't horrible, T3 was low, T4 was low and RT3 was high.
Was on TCypionate at the time plus hCG which helped, but did not get full symptom resolution.
This put me over the top and for the first time I reached full optimization.
I don't remember my initial lab work from a few years back, but TSH wasn't horrible, T3 was low, T4 was low and RT3 was high.
Was on TCypionate at the time plus hCG which helped, but did not get full symptom resolution.
This put me over the top and for the first time I reached full optimization.
By low do you mean under the reference range? And what symptoms improved? Really helpful to hear btw, thank you.
I am also on thyroid meds. My main reason is to improve by cholesterol panel.
By present protocol is, 90 mg of thyroid armor and 6.25 of Cytomel twice a day.
can cytomel by itself be used to treat hypothyroidism
I'm just wondering if anyone uses just Cytomel (Liothyronine) to treat their hypothyroidism?
Ahh, so mentally it felt no better?
The digestive improvement was actually a nice surprise. I have dealt with IBS for all of my life and i came to accept that is just “how I am” but after a short time taking the T3, my digestion/motility became what I believe most people experience. Not normal for me but what I’ve always thought normal to be. IBS for me was always being gassy, switching back and forth between constipation and diarrhea and rarely ever being regular. I still have the occasional bout of one or the other but I can usually explain it by my actions leading up to it (self-inflicted
The digestive improvement was actually a nice surprise. I have dealt with IBS for all of my life and i came to accept that is just “how I am” but after a short time taking the T3, my digestion/motility became what I believe most people experience. Not normal for me but what I’ve always thought normal to be. IBS for me was always being gassy, switching back and forth between constipation and diarrhea and rarely ever being regular. I still have the occasional bout of one or the other but I can usually explain it by my actions leading up to it (self-inflicted
That's amazing. I'll definitely get T3 checked again at some point. Though even your number is just barely within range at the lab I went to. The range there is 2.8+. And amazing that it's not causing any suppression for you as well.
Any increase to SHBG, if it was tested?
I have a nearly identical situation, also taking 10 mcg liothyronine daily.
Did you test T3 outside the reference range?
No, just lowish, and rT3 at top-of-range. With elevated rT3 you're supposed to try to identify an underlying cause, but none of the standard conditions seems likely in my situation. Intestinal issues are mentioned as one potential reason, which may be the link in Ardoc2's case.
@Vince @Cataceous
Given that rT3 is high-ish or T3 somewhat low (albeit fluctuating). How much T3 is reasonable to take without inducing much suppression? Say you have a 25mcg tablet, cutting it to 10mcg seems like a bit of a pain, but is 10mcg reasonable?
Given that rT3 is high-ish or T3 somewhat low (albeit fluctuating). How much T3 is reasonable to take without inducing much suppression? Say you have a 25mcg tablet, cutting it to 10mcg seems like a bit of a pain, but is 10mcg reasonable?
Vince
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Reliable RX sells a nice T3 pill, that’s easy to cut into quarters. That’s what I buy. It’s 25 mcg, I wouldn’t go higher than 6.25 mcg twice a day. Make sure you take care on an empty stomach and no food or liquid besides water for one hour. It’s really hard for it to digest. Like thyroid meds.
The price is $42 for 100 pills.
I would start with the 6.25 mcg dose first thing in the morning. That might be enough. If not then 12.5 mcg is still reasonable. I have alternated between 5 and 10 mcg at various times. I guess due to fluctuations in natural levels, sometimes 10 mcg feels like too much.
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Do you get agitated/irritable with too much? And does it impact your mood in any other way?
Tbh I'm mostly thinking about brain fog. But at points these days, with TRT, I get emotional until I'm on the verge of crying out of nowhere. Sometimes after sex, sometimes exercise, sometimes it's like it's fixed with food.
Lowering E2 seems to help to an extent. So my primary theories for the emotional mood is high E2, or spikes in prolactin, or thyroid hormones (hypothyroidism actually has mood swings as a known side effect). Another thing I get is bad brain fog but it's not necessarily on the same days as the emotional thing.
And killing E2 seems to kill the brain fog.
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