Help: how to stop 3week trt experiment?

[PAUL-E]

Bottom line:
PCT or "restart" is for restarting something that is shutdown.
At 3 weeks you most likely are not shutdown but only a lab will show it.
IF you do this and didn't need it, you might cause more issues that just stopping.
FYI
3weeks for any type of testosterone is useless since your body will adjust its hormones more after 3 weeks.
Many things continue to change at 4, 8 and 12 weeks.

like I said I'm not an expert perhaps lab work would be the right thing to do

 

[PAUL-E]

At this point, you've heard from a number of members offering a range of opinions. If you don't have a knowledgeable doctor to consult, I would choose the most conservative approach. You chose to engage in a self-directed, limited TRT experiment. I would be wary of engaging in a self-directed restart in the absence of labs.

I agree 100% IMHO the best thing to do would be to consult with a experienced HRT DR.
whatever you decide I wish you luck!

 

[cajone]

At this point, you've heard from a number of members offering a range of opinions. If you don't have a knowledgeable doctor to consult, I would choose the most conservative approach. You chose to engage in a self-directed, limited TRT experiment. I would be wary of engaging in a self-directed restart in the absence of labs.

I understand that logic. But i presume labs would be done ~1week after last injection, at which time it would be suppose to start the PCT, though the lab results would take some time to come....right?

(no trt doctors around, unfortunately)

 

[cajone]

Bottom line:
PCT or "restart" is for restarting something that is shutdown.
At 3 weeks you most likely are not shutdown but only a lab will show it.
IF you do this and didn't need it, you might cause more issues that just stopping.
FYI
3weeks for any type of testosterone is useless since your body will adjust its hormones more after 3 weeks.
Many things continue to change at 4, 8 and 12 weeks.

For sure this was not well planned (not enough time, perhaps not enough dose)
But again: i presume labs would be advised at ~1week after last injection, right? At which time PCT should start though the labs would take more time to come.

What worst could happen if PCT was done and unwarrented?


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Thanks to all for the help.

 

[PAUL-E]

As other member pointed out if you start PCT and its not needed it might cause more harm then good
there are well respected sponsors on this board like defy that offer phone consultations maybe it wouldn't hurt to give them a call they have a very friendly staff.

 

[cajone]

As other member pointed out if you start PCT and its not needed it might cause more harm then good
there are well respected sponsors on this board like defy that offer phone consultations maybe it wouldn't hurt to give them a call they have a very friendly staff.

i already sent an email to them. still waiting for an answer. Though, since i'm from Europe, i think they cannot give consultations

 

[trt4me]

waste

For sure this was not well planned (not enough time, perhaps not enough dose)
But again: i presume labs would be advised at ~1week after last injection, right? At which time PCT should start though the labs would take more time to come.

What worst could happen if PCT was done and unwarrented?


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Thanks to all for the help.

Well if you aren't shutdown (producing LH) and you then use HCG to help kick start the testes, you could possibly then actually be causing your natural LH to shutdown which is going backwards.
Clomid makes alot of people feel like crap (usually too high dose, E2 , SHBG) so that too if it not needed then your avoiding the possibility of that.

Labs yes around 1 week but with only 3 weeks there is a good chance your not shutdown so you could do labs right at the end. The labs for test and LH come back quick, its E2 that takes longer.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Living in Europe, you don't have access to the sensitive estradiol test. But you should test across the board and evaluate your situation. Simply to jump on a restart for fear of what you have done is only going to complicate matters. As for Defy, they can offer you an opinion-only consultation via phone.

What were your levels before you started this "experiment"?

 

[cajone]

Living in Europe, you don't have access to the sensitive estradiol test. But you should test across the board and evaluate your situation. Simply to jump on a restart for fear of what you have done is only going to complicate matters. As for Defy, they can offer you an opinion-only consultation via phone.

What were your levels before you started this "experiment"?

580 ng/dl.

What labs would you recommend me doing at ~1week?

 

[cajone]

Well if you aren't shutdown (producing LH) and you then use HCG to help kick start the testes, you could possibly then actually be causing your natural LH to shutdown which is going backwards.
Clomid makes alot of people feel like crap (usually too high dose, E2 , SHBG) so that too if it not needed then your avoiding the possibility of that.

Labs yes around 1 week but with only 3 weeks there is a good chance your not shutdown so you could do labs right at the end. The labs for test and LH come back quick, its E2 that takes longer.

"right at the end"? not waiting 1week? only labs for LH, test and e2? no fsh or others? Regards

 

[CoastWatcher]

580 ng/dl.

What labs would you recommend me doing at ~1week?

This is all you tested prior to starting? When did you last inject testosterone?

 

[cajone]

This is all you tested prior to starting? When did you last inject testosterone?

I did also lipids, thyroid, liver, etc (all ok). But no e2 nor SBHG, though. :/ (stupid, i know)

Last injection was yesterday, wednesday