hCG mono at 7 months | | Thyroid eval?

[Re-Ride]

Ultimately one needs to be under the endocrine care of a single practice, adhere diligently to their recommendations and employ enough patience to realize results.

For those looking for an endo to avoid in SF the comments above were made by "A.P." whose practice is part of Sutter Health and located in zip 94109.

 

[Re-Ride]

Nelson, re Run Away!

Hematocrit was well under under 47% (40-52%) on that draw in mid Nov.

Let's just say that I entertained "vivid thoughts" while somehow remaining calmly seated in his presence. The sad thing is all my docs on the network received those recommendations and they are now part of my chart. My primary, who had previously expressed interest in learning more about hCG has now slammed shut the hCG door for all. At least he concedes that the hematocrit is just fine.

As a provider of licensed services to the public prior to retirement I was held to the bar of responsibly plying my trade. In the absence of oversight by their peers quacks such as this endo, operating under the color of authority, are all too prevalent in a country that spends the most per capita on health care yet ranks dead last in outcomes compared to other nations.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

My primary had me consult an "eminent and highly regarded" endo in SF re the DHEA and thyroid tests. The endo began the consult by asking me why I was there. Aside from what was stated in the referral I indicated an interest in seeing how he might manage my endocrine care.

He responded: "Pt do not choose me I choose my pt's" I was informed how well off financially he had become, what a nice home he has and that he had come out of retirement "out of boredom not need".

Holy crap Re-Ride...what a nightmare. To paraphrase a line from the movie "Topgun," this guy's ego is writing checks his brain can't cash. I agree with Nelson...run as fast as you can away from this "expert."

Call the folks at Defy Medical, and get a competent TRT Doctor to treat you. Perhaps you can drop off a copy of Dr. Crisler's book to your Endo's office so he can become familiar with the basics of TRT.

 

[Re-Ride]

Jackie, let me repeat, this bafoon, "A.P.", masquerading as a medical specialist is NOT my endo! I was in consult re thyroid and DHEA at the desire of one of my docs for whom I have great trust and respect.

Thanks to the education offered on these pages the "nightmare" of becoming one of his ghoulish pt's seen in reception was never a possibility. Been there, done that so the experience is unsettling even four days out.

Although endocrine health is a rapidly developing art still in its infancy there is no excuse for either the pompous attitude or the gross misinformation. Furthermore, absolutely everyone is jeopardized when health insurance $$$ are skimmed off in to the pockets of charlatans whether or not we are personally under their "care".

As the U.S. careens off the cliff of health care insolvency the imperative for reform looms like a deadly iceberg. We hope the solution does not curtail drug development or hamstringing legitimate practitioners with over-regulation.

Divergent standards of care driven by sexism, racism or convictions of faith deserve closer attention. A woman just died after being dragged from an ER by police for trespassing. Never rule out social engineering when offered otherwise incomprehensible and unconventional care especially when they lead to sterilization.

 

[Vince Carter]

wow that's an incredible transcript of that conversation. Just amazingly ignorant. and Arrogant.