Does anyone have good luck with hcg from reliablerx or safemeds? Looking to save a few dollars, have some tight times going on right now.
HCG from overseas
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Vince Carter
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Just be sure you look at what youre buying you want vials and not ampules
hCG is derived from human pregnancy urine. What is your confidence level in the offshore lab having purified their product to the extent that no pathogens remain? Efficacy should be the least of your concerns. Reflect upon the possibility of heavy metals, Kronos knows what and that injections by-pass the bodies primary defenses.
Deleted member 16042
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Re-ride, I buy from overseas and would like to know if there are actually documented problems. Do you have any specific references?
What is wrong with bacteriostatic sodium chloride? I've been using it for years with HCG and peptides.
A few times when I purchased HCG from offshore pharmacies.. incl Reliable Rx I have rec'd a bad batch that did nothing. Remember that all offshore HCG is typically from India. I suspect it's pretty hot there and wonder if they refrigerate it over there.
A few times when I purchased HCG from offshore pharmacies.. incl Reliable Rx I have rec'd a bad batch that did nothing. Remember that all offshore HCG is typically from India. I suspect it's pretty hot there and wonder if they refrigerate it over there.
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Hallandale sent my HCG with bacteriostatic sodium chloride, but the overseas HCG comes with NaCl that is not bacteriostatic and instructions state to use at once. It seems to me that fhe key is "bacteriostatic" if you are going to store and use over days-weeks.
Seems to be the same with Empower HCG in terms of potency. My experience is also the same as others here.
BUT: refrigeration is necessary after mixing. Is it necessary for the dry ingredient prior to mixing? The amps/vials from India are sent as dry powder/crystal.
Take the case of BSE-CKJ. Prions, years of incubation then whamo, tragedy. Five or ten years from now exactly who is going to be "documenting" disease caused by an illegal underground substance that was injected in the past? Unless a substances causes immediate death or harm there will never be any connection to it alert or cause-effect made. The world's most effective bio-weapons have been designed with this principle in mind.
I've given this plenty of thought because I know that in the not to distant future my only access to T will be from a UL source. The older you are the easier it is to throw those dice. If you have your whole life ahead of you then you may want to think carefully about gambling in a way that could change things forever.
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Deleted member 16042
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Seems so, and consistent with a couple other member's reports on this forum.
What I don't know is how I might respond if I get another vial from Hallandale. It may be a problem with me, not the source of HCG
FeelingLost
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Hi rhino you can read about it here.
https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?12812-HCG-potency-from-different-brands
Let's review the regulation oversight for "Indian Pharmaceutical hCH" ,view photos of their facilities and review their QC programs.
Gee, that was easy! Now lets look at tracking. This assures us that product was actually made by the outfit that sold it. Glory be the Russian Mob is just a conspiracy theory.
Perhaps many of our readers are unfamiliar with the blood clotting agent fiasco of the 1980's and 1990's. U.S. and European Big Pharma knew exactly what they were selling but because their victims died a slow death they kept getting away with murder for years rather than spend a few extra bucks to clean up their product.
Accessing U.S.A. made hCG: The FDA has recently begun decrying OTC hCG diet drops claiming them to constitute "economic fraud". Meanwhile studies have demonstrated a strong association between between hCG and sexual harassment. The overwhelming majority of legislators accused of sexual harassment did not take hCG. The "economic fraud" mentioned by the FDA is actually the classification of hCG as a "dangerous schedule IV controlled" substance. If legislators were to have easy OTC access to hCG then they will not be in pain from shrunken receding testicles which drives them to committing these heinous crimes.
Instead of funding the Golden Golem of Grateness indirectly by buying from the Russian mob we might well jump on this fortuitous window of opportunity, dun our Panda suits and demand decriminalization as a public health emergency measure essential to winning the war on sexual predators.
Gee, that was easy! Now lets look at tracking. This assures us that product was actually made by the outfit that sold it. Glory be the Russian Mob is just a conspiracy theory.
Perhaps many of our readers are unfamiliar with the blood clotting agent fiasco of the 1980's and 1990's. U.S. and European Big Pharma knew exactly what they were selling but because their victims died a slow death they kept getting away with murder for years rather than spend a few extra bucks to clean up their product.
Accessing U.S.A. made hCG: The FDA has recently begun decrying OTC hCG diet drops claiming them to constitute "economic fraud". Meanwhile studies have demonstrated a strong association between between hCG and sexual harassment. The overwhelming majority of legislators accused of sexual harassment did not take hCG. The "economic fraud" mentioned by the FDA is actually the classification of hCG as a "dangerous schedule IV controlled" substance. If legislators were to have easy OTC access to hCG then they will not be in pain from shrunken receding testicles which drives them to committing these heinous crimes.
Instead of funding the Golden Golem of Grateness indirectly by buying from the Russian mob we might well jump on this fortuitous window of opportunity, dun our Panda suits and demand decriminalization as a public health emergency measure essential to winning the war on sexual predators.
cleverusername
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. huh?
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OK, so you are implying that the problem is HCG regardless of where you buy it. That was not clear before.
I don't implicitly trust any big pharm, nor compounding pharmacies, nor overseas pharm more or less than the other. However, i am not buying the Russian conspiracy theory you whipped up here nor do i have any fear of becoming a sex criminal, nor of dying from mad cow disease.
Must be one of those bad batches.... lol
Saxon
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That's the only way I get my HCG. I have had less than stellar results with Compounding Pharmacy HCG. reliable has great prices.
Gene Devine
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All of the HCG sold on Reliable is formulated from generic pharmaceutical manufacturers. Many of these manufacturers are the same that produce most of the generics that we buy here in US pharmacies. In fact, about 90% of the generics sold in the US come from overseas manufacturers.
Blackhawk, OP asks about potency perhaps overlooking purity. Purity of substances to be injected is of far greater concern than those to be ingested. Do you understand why? Can you explain why documentation, oversight, inspection does not raise your confidence in purity of a product?
I'm wary of anything that is "implied". The implied warranty of merchantability for instance. "No fear" says Alexa "because Visa's got you covered". I did not imply or even suggest, as you say, that "The problem is hCG regardless of where you buy it". The double blind study on the correlation between hCG and sexual predation by legislators -inferred- but does not prove, that the predation by legislative members is linked to those members NOT using hCG. The investigators inferred that the accused legislators: i) were not on hCG because they could find no published reports of them taking hCG , ii) committed the crimes in response to pain from ascended shriveled testicles, iii) likely would not have committed these crimes if they had had ready access to otc hCG. Is op is looking to illicit product because, like the legislators, he has no ready access to safe medicine?
ASSPAT-SEEKDC, The Association of Patients Seeking Decriminalization of Medicine, recognizes this moment in history as being ripe for reform. The study is a powerful vehicle for a public that wants something nailed to the wall. Critics of reform will attempt to highlight flaws in the study such as it being "double blind" only in the sense that both investigators were sightless. Truth be said its science is on par with the "science" that criminalized hCG in the first place. But when it comes to regulation, decriminalization or any legislation for that matter successful solicitors understand that their job is to skilfully exclude true facts and rational thought.
The latest recognition of the right-to-life of the zygote, not just the fetus, likely means that we have a large powerful ally who will also support the right-to-life of sperm. A perfect storm of moral outrage can end over-regulation of hCG. Op's goal of securing potent medicine at a fair price might best be served with activism rather than sending money overseas to the mob. This is secondary to my main point of safety but I believe worthy of consideration.
I'm wary of anything that is "implied". The implied warranty of merchantability for instance. "No fear" says Alexa "because Visa's got you covered". I did not imply or even suggest, as you say, that "The problem is hCG regardless of where you buy it". The double blind study on the correlation between hCG and sexual predation by legislators -inferred- but does not prove, that the predation by legislative members is linked to those members NOT using hCG. The investigators inferred that the accused legislators: i) were not on hCG because they could find no published reports of them taking hCG , ii) committed the crimes in response to pain from ascended shriveled testicles, iii) likely would not have committed these crimes if they had had ready access to otc hCG. Is op is looking to illicit product because, like the legislators, he has no ready access to safe medicine?
ASSPAT-SEEKDC, The Association of Patients Seeking Decriminalization of Medicine, recognizes this moment in history as being ripe for reform. The study is a powerful vehicle for a public that wants something nailed to the wall. Critics of reform will attempt to highlight flaws in the study such as it being "double blind" only in the sense that both investigators were sightless. Truth be said its science is on par with the "science" that criminalized hCG in the first place. But when it comes to regulation, decriminalization or any legislation for that matter successful solicitors understand that their job is to skilfully exclude true facts and rational thought.
The latest recognition of the right-to-life of the zygote, not just the fetus, likely means that we have a large powerful ally who will also support the right-to-life of sperm. A perfect storm of moral outrage can end over-regulation of hCG. Op's goal of securing potent medicine at a fair price might best be served with activism rather than sending money overseas to the mob. This is secondary to my main point of safety but I believe worthy of consideration.
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